<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[LeaderSHOP]]></title><description><![CDATA[Smart tips from today's top thought leaders — hosted by leadership coach Dr. Rodger Dean Duncan.]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GMFn!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F52f13b33-accd-46af-ae57-d31a0cb67ed2_195x195.png</url><title>LeaderSHOP</title><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2026 15:51:55 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://podcast.leadershop.net/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[Rodger Dean Duncan]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[leadershop@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[leadershop@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[LeaderSHOP]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[LeaderSHOP]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[leadershop@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[leadershop@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[LeaderSHOP]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 95: Mette Norgaard — Why Great Leaders Learn to Handle Hard Better]]></title><description><![CDATA[Mette Norgaard joins Rodger Dean Duncan to discuss aliveness: directing attention to shape intention, aligning head, heart, and body on hard calls, and creating conditions where people can flourish.]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-95-mette-norgaard-handle-hard-better</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-95-mette-norgaard-handle-hard-better</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LeaderSHOP]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2026 10:30:41 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/218795557/c892cf516faadce83181d377380e6afb.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leadership today demands far more than technical expertise and sound decision-making. Executive coach and author Mette Norgaard argues that the most effective leaders cultivate something deeper: the capacity to remain fully present, resourceful, and grounded when circumstances become difficult. She calls this quality &#8220;aliveness&#8221;&#8212;the ability to meet life&#8217;s inevitable challenges with clarity, resilience, and intention rather than reacting out of fear or habit.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hMFj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1667773-15c0-4eae-b2ce-affacb2d8068_450x213.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hMFj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1667773-15c0-4eae-b2ce-affacb2d8068_450x213.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hMFj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1667773-15c0-4eae-b2ce-affacb2d8068_450x213.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hMFj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1667773-15c0-4eae-b2ce-affacb2d8068_450x213.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hMFj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1667773-15c0-4eae-b2ce-affacb2d8068_450x213.png" width="450" height="213" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c1667773-15c0-4eae-b2ce-affacb2d8068_450x213.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:213,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hMFj!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1667773-15c0-4eae-b2ce-affacb2d8068_450x213.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hMFj!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1667773-15c0-4eae-b2ce-affacb2d8068_450x213.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hMFj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1667773-15c0-4eae-b2ce-affacb2d8068_450x213.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hMFj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1667773-15c0-4eae-b2ce-affacb2d8068_450x213.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><p>Throughout the conversation, Norgaard explores practical ways leaders can strengthen their inner capacity while improving their outward effectiveness. She explains the importance of directing attention before forming intentions, making difficult decisions with the head, heart, and body aligned, practicing purposeful pauses, and creating the conditions that allow others to flourish. Rather than offering another leadership technique, she presents a compelling case that leadership begins with becoming more fully alive ourselves.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1NQ2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdfea2f22-0b22-4cb4-ac98-f9f8fe160f04_450x225.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1NQ2!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdfea2f22-0b22-4cb4-ac98-f9f8fe160f04_450x225.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1NQ2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdfea2f22-0b22-4cb4-ac98-f9f8fe160f04_450x225.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1NQ2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdfea2f22-0b22-4cb4-ac98-f9f8fe160f04_450x225.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1NQ2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdfea2f22-0b22-4cb4-ac98-f9f8fe160f04_450x225.png" width="450" height="225" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/dfea2f22-0b22-4cb4-ac98-f9f8fe160f04_450x225.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:225,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1NQ2!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdfea2f22-0b22-4cb4-ac98-f9f8fe160f04_450x225.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1NQ2!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdfea2f22-0b22-4cb4-ac98-f9f8fe160f04_450x225.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1NQ2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdfea2f22-0b22-4cb4-ac98-f9f8fe160f04_450x225.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1NQ2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdfea2f22-0b22-4cb4-ac98-f9f8fe160f04_450x225.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ul><li><p>Great leadership begins with the capacity to handle difficult situations well. Leaders who remain resourceful under pressure are better equipped to make sound decisions, inspire confidence, and guide others through uncertainty.</p></li><li><p>Attention shapes intention. Leaders who direct their attention are better able to intentionally make thoughtful decisions, resist distractions, and lead with greater clarity and purpose.</p></li><li><p>Leadership is about creating conditions where others can succeed. Rather than trying to motivate or empower people directly, great leaders establish an environment where individuals can motivate and empower themselves.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YNAk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F076de3e8-6176-4b1b-811c-5c2aa52b249f_450x171.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YNAk!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F076de3e8-6176-4b1b-811c-5c2aa52b249f_450x171.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YNAk!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F076de3e8-6176-4b1b-811c-5c2aa52b249f_450x171.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YNAk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F076de3e8-6176-4b1b-811c-5c2aa52b249f_450x171.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YNAk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F076de3e8-6176-4b1b-811c-5c2aa52b249f_450x171.png" width="450" height="171" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/076de3e8-6176-4b1b-811c-5c2aa52b249f_450x171.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:171,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YNAk!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F076de3e8-6176-4b1b-811c-5c2aa52b249f_450x171.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YNAk!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F076de3e8-6176-4b1b-811c-5c2aa52b249f_450x171.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YNAk!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F076de3e8-6176-4b1b-811c-5c2aa52b249f_450x171.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YNAk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F076de3e8-6176-4b1b-811c-5c2aa52b249f_450x171.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ol><li><p>When you encounter a difficult situation this week, resist the urge to react immediately. Pause, become fully present, and ask yourself how you can handle the challenge more resourcefully.</p></li><li><p>Before making an important decision, intentionally direct your attention by considering not only what makes sense intellectually, but also what aligns with your values and what you have the courage to carry through.</p></li><li><p>Ask yourself whether you&#8217;re creating conditions that allow others to succeed instead of trying to solve every problem for them.</p></li></ol>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 96: John Miles — The Mattering Effect: Creating a Culture Where People Know They Count]]></title><description><![CDATA[John Miles joins Rodger Dean Duncan to discuss the difference between belonging and mattering, why high performers can feel invisible, and how gardener leaders tend the environment instead of fixing people.]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-96-john-miles-the-mattering-effect</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-96-john-miles-the-mattering-effect</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LeaderSHOP]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2026 10:30:52 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/218796248/56fd7bcdca8e269090ec9bcbfc122c15.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John R. Miles, award-winning author, keynote speaker, host of the Passion Struck podcast, and former Fortune 50 executive, joins Rodger Dean Duncan to explore one of our most fundamental human needs: knowing that we matter. Drawing from his new book, The Mattering Effect: Creating a Life of Meaning and Worth, Miles distinguishes mattering from belonging, connectedness, and purpose. Belonging means having a place; mattering goes deeper&#8212;it means feeling valued and knowing that what we contribute makes a difference.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2caW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d6ada72-4f11-4180-890c-140717ec5928_450x204.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2caW!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d6ada72-4f11-4180-890c-140717ec5928_450x204.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2caW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d6ada72-4f11-4180-890c-140717ec5928_450x204.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2caW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d6ada72-4f11-4180-890c-140717ec5928_450x204.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2caW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d6ada72-4f11-4180-890c-140717ec5928_450x204.png" width="450" height="204" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8d6ada72-4f11-4180-890c-140717ec5928_450x204.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:204,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2caW!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d6ada72-4f11-4180-890c-140717ec5928_450x204.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2caW!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d6ada72-4f11-4180-890c-140717ec5928_450x204.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2caW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d6ada72-4f11-4180-890c-140717ec5928_450x204.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2caW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d6ada72-4f11-4180-890c-140717ec5928_450x204.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><p>Their conversation examines what happens when high performers become valued for their output but invisible as people, why workplaces can unintentionally teach employees to hide their struggles, and how small signals of unmattering can accumulate into burnout and disengagement. Miles explores psychological safety, self-care, reciprocity, and the hidden loneliness of dependable people, while challenging leaders to stop treating people as problems to be fixed. Instead, he argues for becoming a &#8220;gardener leader&#8221;&#8212;someone who creates the conditions in which people can grow, contribute, speak honestly, and know that their presence genuinely counts.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aNn3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3ec5b1af-ffc2-4acc-8bad-44df0c497293_450x225.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aNn3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3ec5b1af-ffc2-4acc-8bad-44df0c497293_450x225.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aNn3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3ec5b1af-ffc2-4acc-8bad-44df0c497293_450x225.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aNn3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3ec5b1af-ffc2-4acc-8bad-44df0c497293_450x225.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aNn3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3ec5b1af-ffc2-4acc-8bad-44df0c497293_450x225.png" width="450" height="225" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3ec5b1af-ffc2-4acc-8bad-44df0c497293_450x225.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:225,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aNn3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3ec5b1af-ffc2-4acc-8bad-44df0c497293_450x225.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aNn3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3ec5b1af-ffc2-4acc-8bad-44df0c497293_450x225.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aNn3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3ec5b1af-ffc2-4acc-8bad-44df0c497293_450x225.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aNn3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3ec5b1af-ffc2-4acc-8bad-44df0c497293_450x225.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ul><li><p>Go Beyond Belonging to Mattering &#8211; Giving someone a place on the team is not the same as making that person feel valued. Mattering requires both feeling valued and having meaningful opportunities to add value.</p></li><li><p>See the Person Behind the Performance &#8211; People can be indispensable to an organization while feeling invisible within it. Knowing what someone produces is different from understanding what that person may be carrying beneath the surface.</p></li><li><p>Cultivate the Environment, Don&#8217;t Fix the Person &#8211; Gardener leadership begins with the possibility that the person may not be the problem&#8212;the environment may be. Leaders create better performance by identifying and removing conditions that prevent people from growing and doing their best work.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UAZP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F048ec6e5-b728-4809-ab39-9291c9242006_450x171.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UAZP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F048ec6e5-b728-4809-ab39-9291c9242006_450x171.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UAZP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F048ec6e5-b728-4809-ab39-9291c9242006_450x171.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UAZP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F048ec6e5-b728-4809-ab39-9291c9242006_450x171.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UAZP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F048ec6e5-b728-4809-ab39-9291c9242006_450x171.png" width="450" height="171" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/048ec6e5-b728-4809-ab39-9291c9242006_450x171.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:171,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UAZP!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F048ec6e5-b728-4809-ab39-9291c9242006_450x171.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UAZP!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F048ec6e5-b728-4809-ab39-9291c9242006_450x171.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UAZP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F048ec6e5-b728-4809-ab39-9291c9242006_450x171.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UAZP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F048ec6e5-b728-4809-ab39-9291c9242006_450x171.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ol><li><p>Notice Where You Matter &#8211; Identify the places in your life where you both feel valued and have meaningful opportunities to contribute. Then consider where one side of that equation may be missing and what you can do to strengthen it.</p></li><li><p>Look Beneath the Surface &#8211; Think about someone whose competence or reliability you may take for granted. Instead of focusing on what that person does, make time to learn something about what they may be carrying outside the work others normally see.</p></li><li><p>Look at the Environment &#8211; When you or someone around you is struggling to perform, resist immediately assuming the individual needs fixing. Ask what conditions, obstacles, expectations, or missing support might be getting in the way and what you can do differently to improve the environment.</p></li></ol>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 94: Ron Friedman — Why Great Teams Need Leaders Who Amplify Focus]]></title><description><![CDATA[Ron Friedman joins Rodger Dean Duncan to explain how great teams protect focus, avoid unnecessary meetings, and help one another improve.]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-94-ron-friedman-focus-amplifiers-and-superteams</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-94-ron-friedman-focus-amplifiers-and-superteams</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LeaderSHOP]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2026 09:30:41 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/216933956/739a0ba29f7b8770770ca6c294cb8fa2.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many organizations invest heavily in perks, technology, and collaboration spaces, believing these will create high-performing teams. Social psychologist Ron Friedman argues that exceptional teams are built differently. Drawing on research involving more than 6,000 workers, he explains that great teams consistently outperform others not because they work harder, but because leaders intentionally create the conditions that allow people to do their best work. At the heart of those conditions is a leader&#8217;s ability to protect focus.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LoE2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F560bdfbe-7a38-4309-bb25-eea7789e4735_450x202.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LoE2!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F560bdfbe-7a38-4309-bb25-eea7789e4735_450x202.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LoE2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F560bdfbe-7a38-4309-bb25-eea7789e4735_450x202.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LoE2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F560bdfbe-7a38-4309-bb25-eea7789e4735_450x202.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LoE2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F560bdfbe-7a38-4309-bb25-eea7789e4735_450x202.jpeg" width="450" height="202" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/560bdfbe-7a38-4309-bb25-eea7789e4735_450x202.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:202,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:18487,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/216933956?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F560bdfbe-7a38-4309-bb25-eea7789e4735_450x202.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LoE2!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F560bdfbe-7a38-4309-bb25-eea7789e4735_450x202.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LoE2!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F560bdfbe-7a38-4309-bb25-eea7789e4735_450x202.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LoE2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F560bdfbe-7a38-4309-bb25-eea7789e4735_450x202.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LoE2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F560bdfbe-7a38-4309-bb25-eea7789e4735_450x202.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><p>Throughout the conversation, Friedman challenges several popular assumptions about teamwork and productivity. He explains why most workplaces aren&#8217;t truly teams, why unnecessary meetings quietly erode performance, how attention residue drains mental energy, and why leaders must become &#8220;focus amplifiers&#8221; who remove distractions instead of creating them. The result is a practical blueprint for building teams that are more engaged, more productive, and far more likely to look forward to Monday morning.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg" width="450" height="225" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:225,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:28730,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/216931621?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ul><li><p>Great teams begin with three essentials: a shared goal, clear roles, and genuine interdependence. Without all three, organizations often have groups of people working together&#8212;but not true teams.</p></li><li><p>High-performing teams are built by leaders who amplify focus. Protecting people&#8217;s time, minimizing unnecessary meetings, and reducing distractions creates the conditions for exceptional work.</p></li><li><p>The strongest teams make one another better. High-performing teams intentionally share knowledge, develop new skills together, and create environments where continuous improvement becomes part of the culture.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg" width="450" height="171" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/af53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:171,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:20813,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/216931621?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ol><li><p>Evaluate your team against three questions: Do we share a common goal? Does everyone understand their role? Do people genuinely depend on one another to succeed?</p></li><li><p>Review your calendar and eliminate meetings that don&#8217;t require collaborative decision-making, creating more uninterrupted time for focused work.</p></li><li><p>Look for opportunities to make someone on your team better this week by sharing knowledge, offering helpful feedback, or encouraging a new skill that strengthens the entire team.</p></li></ol>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 93: Jon Acuff — Procrastination Proof: Turning Intention into Action]]></title><description><![CDATA[Jon Acuff joins Rodger Dean Duncan to explore procrastination, ownership, and the small actions that close the gap between intention and progress.]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-93-jon-acuff-procrastination-proof</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-93-jon-acuff-procrastination-proof</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LeaderSHOP]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 09:31:32 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/216933267/6cee67c5fde96ba83f3963489ff80f1d.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New York Times bestselling author, researcher, speaker, and entrepreneur Jon Acuff has spent years studying why capable people get in their own way. In his latest book, Procrastination Proof: Never Get Stuck Again, he challenges the familiar idea that procrastination is simply a failure of discipline. Instead, he argues that procrastination is often a solution people use to avoid fear, criticism, uncertainty, overwhelm, or other discomfort&#8212;and that meaningful progress begins by understanding the problem that solution is trying to solve.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1XGN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121de0e7-dd86-488d-8813-86ee0aaa5eca_450x207.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1XGN!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121de0e7-dd86-488d-8813-86ee0aaa5eca_450x207.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1XGN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121de0e7-dd86-488d-8813-86ee0aaa5eca_450x207.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1XGN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121de0e7-dd86-488d-8813-86ee0aaa5eca_450x207.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1XGN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121de0e7-dd86-488d-8813-86ee0aaa5eca_450x207.jpeg" width="450" height="207" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/121de0e7-dd86-488d-8813-86ee0aaa5eca_450x207.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:207,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:18628,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/216933267?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121de0e7-dd86-488d-8813-86ee0aaa5eca_450x207.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1XGN!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121de0e7-dd86-488d-8813-86ee0aaa5eca_450x207.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1XGN!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121de0e7-dd86-488d-8813-86ee0aaa5eca_450x207.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1XGN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121de0e7-dd86-488d-8813-86ee0aaa5eca_450x207.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1XGN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121de0e7-dd86-488d-8813-86ee0aaa5eca_450x207.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><p>Acuff joins Rodger Dean Duncan to explore how leaders can close the gap between intentions and actions through four deceptively simple disciplines: dream, plan, do, and review. Their conversation examines why organizations accumulate unnecessary systems, how future-focused thinking improves present decisions, why ownership matters more than blame, and how leaders can motivate different people according to what matters to them. Acuff also explains why ambitious dreams must be paired with small actions and why attention, self-awareness, and deliberate planning can make tomorrow easier by changing what we do today.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg" width="450" height="225" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:225,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:28730,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/216931621?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ul><li><p>Focus on the Fix, Not the Fault &#8211; Strong leaders accept uncertainty while taking ownership of what they can control. Even when they inherit problems they did not create, they conserve their time, energy, and creativity by concentrating on what can be fixed.</p></li><li><p>Motivate People in Their Own Currency &#8211; People respond differently to incentives, consequences, accountability, visibility, collaboration, and other conditions. Effective leaders learn what helps each individual perform rather than assuming one motivational approach fits everyone.</p></li><li><p>Pair Big Dreams with Small Actions &#8211; Dreams provide a reason to leave the comfort zone, but progress comes through small actions that accumulate over time. Sustainable achievement requires both an outcome worth pursuing and manageable steps that continually move toward it.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg" width="450" height="171" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/af53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:171,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:20813,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/216931621?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ol><li><p>Separate Fault from Fix &#8211; Take one frustrating problem you did not create and divide it into what you cannot control and what you can. Stop spending energy on the first list and identify the next concrete action available from the second.</p></li><li><p>Recognize Different Currencies &#8211; Identify the conditions that bring out your own best performance, then notice how those conditions may differ for the people around you. Pay attention to what seems to motivate each person rather than assuming that what works for you will work equally well for them.</p></li><li><p>Audition a Goal &#8211; Choose something meaningful you&#8217;ve been postponing and commit just 15 to 30 minutes a day to it for the next two weeks. At the end of the experiment, review what happened before deciding whether and how to continue.</p></li></ol>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 92: Martha MacCallum — Building Trust Through Service, Curiosity, and Sound Judgment]]></title><description><![CDATA[Martha MacCallum joins Rodger Dean Duncan to discuss leadership rooted in service, getting past talking points, learning from criticism, and why being right matters more than being first.]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-92-martha-maccallum-trust-service-and-judgment</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-92-martha-maccallum-trust-service-and-judgment</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LeaderSHOP]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2026 09:30:09 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/218794555/1d73d3bbdb1371c7201e4bad4392ad68.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martha MacCallum has spent more than two decades interviewing presidents, Supreme Court justices, and other influential figures in American life. As anchor and executive editor of The Story with Martha MacCallum and author of Unknown Valor and The Book of Valor, she brings a perspective shaped by both public leadership and ordinary people who rise to extraordinary challenges. Listen in as Martha explores what separates genuine leadership from holding authority, why audiences recognize authenticity, and how a commitment to something larger than yourself gives leadership meaning.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q9gH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fedb4ed86-9360-4e45-8f7f-fbe26acda1e3_450x199.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q9gH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fedb4ed86-9360-4e45-8f7f-fbe26acda1e3_450x199.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q9gH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fedb4ed86-9360-4e45-8f7f-fbe26acda1e3_450x199.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q9gH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fedb4ed86-9360-4e45-8f7f-fbe26acda1e3_450x199.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q9gH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fedb4ed86-9360-4e45-8f7f-fbe26acda1e3_450x199.png" width="450" height="199" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/edb4ed86-9360-4e45-8f7f-fbe26acda1e3_450x199.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:199,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q9gH!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fedb4ed86-9360-4e45-8f7f-fbe26acda1e3_450x199.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q9gH!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fedb4ed86-9360-4e45-8f7f-fbe26acda1e3_450x199.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q9gH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fedb4ed86-9360-4e45-8f7f-fbe26acda1e3_450x199.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q9gH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fedb4ed86-9360-4e45-8f7f-fbe26acda1e3_450x199.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><p>Drawing on her experience in interviews, presidential debates, and breaking news coverage, Martha offers practical lessons in listening, accepting constructive criticism, and protecting credibility under pressure. She also examines what instantaneous news and artificial intelligence demand of our judgment, why experience and human collaboration still matter, and how curiosity helps us look beneath the first version of what we hear. Martha offers pathways to strengthen trust, make better decisions, and resist the temptation to react before fully understanding.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8BXj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8942834-c3c2-45ee-9e24-1f61f61d714f_450x225.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8BXj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8942834-c3c2-45ee-9e24-1f61f61d714f_450x225.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8BXj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8942834-c3c2-45ee-9e24-1f61f61d714f_450x225.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8BXj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8942834-c3c2-45ee-9e24-1f61f61d714f_450x225.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8BXj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8942834-c3c2-45ee-9e24-1f61f61d714f_450x225.png" width="450" height="225" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c8942834-c3c2-45ee-9e24-1f61f61d714f_450x225.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:225,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8BXj!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8942834-c3c2-45ee-9e24-1f61f61d714f_450x225.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8BXj!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8942834-c3c2-45ee-9e24-1f61f61d714f_450x225.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8BXj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8942834-c3c2-45ee-9e24-1f61f61d714f_450x225.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8BXj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8942834-c3c2-45ee-9e24-1f61f61d714f_450x225.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ul><li><p>Service Gives Leadership Its Purpose &#8211; Martha identifies love and an understanding of humanity as foundations of effective leadership. Leaders who want others to succeed and pursue something greater than themselves bring a purpose that extends beyond their own position or recognition.</p></li><li><p>Authenticity Goes Beyond Talking Points &#8211; Rehearsed answers can obscure a person&#8217;s actual thinking. Martha uses polite but firm follow-up questions to bring people back to what was asked, illustrating why direct engagement matters when building trust.</p></li><li><p>Constructive Criticism Improves Decisions &#8211; Effective leaders are willing to hear another perspective and grow from it. Criticism becomes productive when it helps people understand what they may be missing and move toward a better decision.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!09CM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9c101cc-5d8b-4418-b471-4ffd2b156e41_450x171.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!09CM!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9c101cc-5d8b-4418-b471-4ffd2b156e41_450x171.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!09CM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9c101cc-5d8b-4418-b471-4ffd2b156e41_450x171.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!09CM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9c101cc-5d8b-4418-b471-4ffd2b156e41_450x171.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!09CM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9c101cc-5d8b-4418-b471-4ffd2b156e41_450x171.png" width="450" height="171" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c9c101cc-5d8b-4418-b471-4ffd2b156e41_450x171.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:171,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!09CM!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9c101cc-5d8b-4418-b471-4ffd2b156e41_450x171.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!09CM!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9c101cc-5d8b-4418-b471-4ffd2b156e41_450x171.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!09CM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9c101cc-5d8b-4418-b471-4ffd2b156e41_450x171.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!09CM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9c101cc-5d8b-4418-b471-4ffd2b156e41_450x171.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ol><li><p>Connect Your Leadership to Service &#8211; Identify who benefits from your work and what you want to help them achieve. Use that purpose to guide one decision that might otherwise revolve around your own convenience or recognition.</p></li><li><p>Ask the Follow-Up That Matters &#8211; When an answer misses the question, bring the conversation back politely and directly. Practice doing the same when you are answering: address what was asked and explain your reasoning.</p></li><li><p>Invite a Different Perspective &#8211; Ask someone you trust to challenge a decision you are considering. Listen to how they reached their conclusion and identify what their perspective adds before defending your own.</p></li></ol>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 91: Ron Johnson — Shop Different: Leadership, Significance, and the Courage to Learn]]></title><description><![CDATA[Ron Johnson joins Rodger Dean Duncan to discuss lessons from Target, Apple, and JCPenney: give people direction and freedom, learn before changing, and lead with kindness.]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-91-ron-johnson-leadership-significance-and-kindness</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-91-ron-johnson-leadership-significance-and-kindness</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LeaderSHOP]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2026 09:30:46 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/216931621/6e0f12e75ab72be22ee8637c0f0398de.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Johnson has helped reshape modern retail at Target and Apple, experienced the painful lessons of attempting to transform JCPenney, and spent a career discovering what leadership looks like when purpose, service, and humanity are taken seriously. Drawing from his new book, Shop Different: How Retail Revealed Apple&#8217;s Genius, Johnson joins Rodger Dean Duncan to explore the experiences and relationships that shaped his approach to leadership&#8212;from learning to stop managing people so closely to helping create the Apple Store alongside Steve Jobs.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0s--!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97865720-718d-48a1-99b4-89ceb170d50b_450x198.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0s--!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97865720-718d-48a1-99b4-89ceb170d50b_450x198.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0s--!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97865720-718d-48a1-99b4-89ceb170d50b_450x198.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0s--!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97865720-718d-48a1-99b4-89ceb170d50b_450x198.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0s--!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97865720-718d-48a1-99b4-89ceb170d50b_450x198.jpeg" width="450" height="198" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/97865720-718d-48a1-99b4-89ceb170d50b_450x198.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:198,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:17069,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/216931621?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97865720-718d-48a1-99b4-89ceb170d50b_450x198.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0s--!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97865720-718d-48a1-99b4-89ceb170d50b_450x198.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0s--!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97865720-718d-48a1-99b4-89ceb170d50b_450x198.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0s--!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97865720-718d-48a1-99b4-89ceb170d50b_450x198.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0s--!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97865720-718d-48a1-99b4-89ceb170d50b_450x198.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><p>Their conversation examines what it means to pursue significance, why leaders must give people both a clear North Star and the freedom to do their best work, and how purpose becomes meaningful only when everyday decisions honor it. Johnson also reflects candidly on what he got wrong at JCPenney, why transformation begins by understanding what deserves to be preserved, how deep attention contributes to exceptional work, and why kindness may ultimately exert more influence than charisma, authority, or expertise.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg" width="450" height="225" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:225,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:28730,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/216931621?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0b59!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee1fdcdb-1e16-442f-bd5a-a9ac2bcc5f86_450x225.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ul><li><p>Lead with a North Star &#8211; Leadership is not about constantly checking on people or supplying the answers. Give people a clear, enduring direction and enough freedom to put their own imprint on how they pursue it.</p></li><li><p>Tend the Garden &#8211; Every team member brings a different personal geography, set of needs, and way of doing their best work. Effective leaders learn what each person needs to flourish rather than managing everyone identically.</p></li><li><p>Fit In Before You Stand Out &#8211; Transformation begins by understanding what is already valuable to customers, employees, and the organization. Johnson&#8217;s experience at JCPenney taught him the danger of trying to reinvent something before understanding what deserves to be preserved.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg" width="450" height="171" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/af53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:171,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:20813,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/216931621?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RnFI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf53cbdd-e27a-492d-adc0-ad5d3d851d87_450x171.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ol><li><p>Change the Question &#8211; The next time you check in with someone on your team, resist the urge to offer suggestions or ask for a progress report. Instead ask, &#8220;What can I do to help?&#8221; and listen carefully to the answer.</p></li><li><p>Learn Each Person&#8217;s Geography &#8211; Identify one person you lead whom you may be managing according to your own preferences. Spend time learning what kind of support, independence, feedback, or encouragement helps that person perform at their best.</p></li><li><p>Identify What Must Be Preserved &#8211; Before changing a process, team, or organization, explicitly identify what is already working and why people value it. Determine what should remain intact before deciding what needs to change.</p></li></ol>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 90: Julia Dhar — Why Successful Change Begins With Understanding People]]></title><description><![CDATA[Julia Dhar joins Rodger Dean Duncan to explain how behavioral science, employee agency, and honest feedback turn organizational change into lasting adoption.]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-90-julia-dhar-behavioral-change-leadership</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-90-julia-dhar-behavioral-change-leadership</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LeaderSHOP]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2026 09:30:20 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/212789598/07cc51359647100ee23754523db2647b.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most organizational change initiatives fail&#8212;not because the strategy is flawed, but because leaders underestimate the behavioral challenges involved in helping people adopt new ways of working. Julia Dhar, managing partner at Boston Consulting Group and founder of BCG&#8217;s Behavioral Science Lab, explains that successful transformation depends on understanding how people experience change, not simply announcing it. Leaders who approach change with empathy, curiosity, and behavioral insight dramatically improve their chances of success.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FlAi!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0481fd69-7c89-4a22-8ecf-0cc7d055bf4e_450x213.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FlAi!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0481fd69-7c89-4a22-8ecf-0cc7d055bf4e_450x213.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FlAi!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0481fd69-7c89-4a22-8ecf-0cc7d055bf4e_450x213.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FlAi!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0481fd69-7c89-4a22-8ecf-0cc7d055bf4e_450x213.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FlAi!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0481fd69-7c89-4a22-8ecf-0cc7d055bf4e_450x213.jpeg" width="450" height="213" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0481fd69-7c89-4a22-8ecf-0cc7d055bf4e_450x213.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:213,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:29212,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/212789598?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0481fd69-7c89-4a22-8ecf-0cc7d055bf4e_450x213.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FlAi!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0481fd69-7c89-4a22-8ecf-0cc7d055bf4e_450x213.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FlAi!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0481fd69-7c89-4a22-8ecf-0cc7d055bf4e_450x213.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FlAi!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0481fd69-7c89-4a22-8ecf-0cc7d055bf4e_450x213.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FlAi!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0481fd69-7c89-4a22-8ecf-0cc7d055bf4e_450x213.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><p>Dhar introduces research-backed principles that challenge many conventional assumptions about change leadership. She explores concepts such as &#8220;change distance,&#8221; treating employees as the customers of change, distinguishing agreement from alignment, and giving people genuine agency rather than merely involving them. The result is a practical framework for leading change that builds commitment instead of compliance and momentum instead of resistance.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rr8D!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa229e83e-20f5-450c-852b-f3eebcbff0e9_450x225.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rr8D!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa229e83e-20f5-450c-852b-f3eebcbff0e9_450x225.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rr8D!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa229e83e-20f5-450c-852b-f3eebcbff0e9_450x225.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rr8D!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa229e83e-20f5-450c-852b-f3eebcbff0e9_450x225.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rr8D!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa229e83e-20f5-450c-852b-f3eebcbff0e9_450x225.jpeg" width="450" height="225" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a229e83e-20f5-450c-852b-f3eebcbff0e9_450x225.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:225,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:28730,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/212789598?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa229e83e-20f5-450c-852b-f3eebcbff0e9_450x225.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rr8D!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa229e83e-20f5-450c-852b-f3eebcbff0e9_450x225.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rr8D!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa229e83e-20f5-450c-852b-f3eebcbff0e9_450x225.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rr8D!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa229e83e-20f5-450c-852b-f3eebcbff0e9_450x225.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rr8D!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa229e83e-20f5-450c-852b-f3eebcbff0e9_450x225.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ul><li><p>Successful change is fundamentally a behavioral challenge. Even the best strategy will fail if leaders don&#8217;t invest the time and effort required to help people understand, adopt, and sustain new behaviors.</p></li><li><p>Executives and employees often experience the same change very differently. Recognizing and closing this &#8220;change distance&#8221; is essential to building trust and helping people embrace change rather than resist it.</p></li><li><p>Employees are the customers of change. Leaders who seek to understand their concerns, involve them early, and make change easier to adopt create stronger commitment and better outcomes.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DXVk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F393a4b5f-3fbc-4f9d-a2a3-a3313f4709b0_450x171.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DXVk!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F393a4b5f-3fbc-4f9d-a2a3-a3313f4709b0_450x171.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DXVk!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F393a4b5f-3fbc-4f9d-a2a3-a3313f4709b0_450x171.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DXVk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F393a4b5f-3fbc-4f9d-a2a3-a3313f4709b0_450x171.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DXVk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F393a4b5f-3fbc-4f9d-a2a3-a3313f4709b0_450x171.jpeg" width="450" height="171" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/393a4b5f-3fbc-4f9d-a2a3-a3313f4709b0_450x171.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:171,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:20813,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/212789598?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F393a4b5f-3fbc-4f9d-a2a3-a3313f4709b0_450x171.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DXVk!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F393a4b5f-3fbc-4f9d-a2a3-a3313f4709b0_450x171.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DXVk!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F393a4b5f-3fbc-4f9d-a2a3-a3313f4709b0_450x171.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DXVk!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F393a4b5f-3fbc-4f9d-a2a3-a3313f4709b0_450x171.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DXVk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F393a4b5f-3fbc-4f9d-a2a3-a3313f4709b0_450x171.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ol><li><p>Before launching your next initiative, ask yourself whether you&#8217;ve devoted as much attention to helping people change their behavior as you have to developing the strategy itself.</p></li><li><p>Take time to understand how your team is experiencing change. Recognize that your perspective as a leader may be very different from theirs. Adjust your communication accordingly.</p></li><li><p>Treat your team like customers by actively seeking their input, listening carefully to their concerns, and making it easier for them to adopt new ways of working.</p></li></ol>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[How Do You Assess Leadership? Myth Or Reality?]]></title><description><![CDATA[A famous Army general shares his take on the requirements for effective leadership]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/how-do-you-assess-leadership-myth</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/how-do-you-assess-leadership-myth</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rodger Dean Duncan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2026 06:01:20 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OIoT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F61156576-375a-45b7-862b-1e39eadb8c48_7360x4912.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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These modern-day experts help us understand and practice the art and science of influencing people.</span></p><p><span>But we can reach back&#8212;way back&#8212;in history to consider a much earlier focus on what makes for effective leadership.</span></p><p><span>Plutarch, the Greek-turned-Roman historian, profiled dozens of ancient personalities in his now-famous work called </span><em><span>Parallel Lives. </span></em><span>For centuries, that study has been a staple in universities. But you can bet it&#8217;s not on any of Amazon&#8217;s bestseller lists.</span></p><p><span>Today, the appetite seems to be for quick-read hero-worship of hot shot turnaround artists or celebrity C-suite execs who understand social media as well as they do balance sheets.</span></p><p><span>Enter Stanley McChrystal. After graduating from West Point, he served 34 years in the U.S. Army. His last assignment before retirement was as a four-star general in command of all American and coalition forces in Afghanistan.</span></p><p><span>You might assume that with a career like that behind him, McChrystal would have his fill of studying leadership. Not so. With two collaborators (Jeff Eggers and Jason Mangone) and a team of researchers, McChrystal jumped headlong into an investigation of leadership far beyond anything he&#8217;d experienced or observed in the preceding decades.</span></p><p><span>The result is </span><em><span>Leaders: Myth and Reality.</span></em></p><p><span>With Plutarch&#8217;s </span><em><span>Parallel Lives</span></em><span> as a model, McChrystal examined parallel sets of leaders who followed unconventional paths to succeed.</span></p><p><span>For example&#8212;</span></p><ul><li><p><span>Hollywood icon Walt Disney and French fashion designer Coco Chanel. Both built empires, but in very different ways. And both had public personas that sharply contrasted with how they led in private.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Boss Tweed, the famously corrupt New York politician from the 1860s, and Margaret Thatcher, the longest-serving British prime minister of the 20th century. Both followed unlikely roads to the helm of powerful institutions.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Martin Luther, a seminal figure in the Protestant Reformation, and his namesake Martin Luther King, Jr., known for his work in behalf of American civil rights. Both started as local clergymen, then emerged from modest backgrounds to lead world-changing movements.</span></p></li></ul><p><span>As the book title suggests, McChrystal has identified three common myths about leadership&#8212;myths that can produce less effective results:</span></p><ul><li><p><strong><span>The Formulaic Myth&#8212;</span></strong><span>Simply follow a checklist of behaviors and you&#8217;ll be a great leader.</span></p></li><li><p><strong><span>The Attribution Myth&#8212;</span></strong><span>The success and failures of a team flow mostly from the influence of its leader.</span></p></li><li><p><strong><span>The Results Myth&#8212;</span></strong><span>Delivering results is all that&#8217;s required for positions of power and accolades.</span></p></li></ul><p><span>To explore these findings further, I sat down for a conversation with Stan McChrystal.</span></p><p><strong><span>Rodger Dean Duncan: </span></strong><span>You&#8217;ve identified three leadership myths that you say are widely recognized and even followed but that lead people astray with adverse consequences. If the myths don&#8217;t produce good results, why do people embrace them?</span></p><p><strong><span>Stanley McChrystal:</span></strong><span> We found that these three leadership myths sort of jump out of our research. They are embraced by people because, first, they simplify understanding leadership. In fact, they </span><em><span>over</span></em><span>-simplify leadership. For example, with the Formulaic Myth you can come up with a list of leadership traits that are easy to describe. The list may not necessarily be accurate, but it&#8217;s easy.</span></p><p><span>The same with the Attribution Myth. We often give leaders credit for the success or failure of an organization far in excess of what they actually deserve. Again, it makes evaluation of leadership much simpler. When you think about how history is written, we often write leader-centric history. So it&#8217;s clean to say this army had a better general so they won. In reality, it&#8217;s usually much more nuanced than that.</span></p><p><span>With the Results Myth, we follow leaders who don&#8217;t actually produce good results. That was more interesting to me yet less intuitively obvious. But leaders fulfill a need in us as followers. And it&#8217;s not always about results. It involves the need for something to believe in. As a consequence, some pretty bad leaders turn out to be pretty darn powerful.</span></p><p><span>Today I&#8217;m asking questions I never asked before.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan: </span></strong><span>Of the three leadership myths you&#8217;ve identified, which one do you regard as most common and what role does it play in the perpetuation of less-than-excellent leadership?</span></p><p><strong><span>McChrystal: </span></strong><span>I believe the Formulaic Myth is the most common. That&#8217;s because we like to write down lists of top leadership traits and that sort of thing. It makes it seem that if we simply follow these rules we&#8217;re going to be effective. But this approach tends to ignore the contextual nature of leadership.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan: </span></strong><span>People like check lists, and although simplicity has its place, too much of it can get you in trouble.</span></p><p><strong><span>McChrystal: </span></strong><span>Exactly.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan:</span></strong><span> You&#8217;ve said that mastering the art of &#8220;followership&#8221; is one of the keys to becoming an effective leader. What does that &#8220;look like&#8221; in terms of observable behaviors?</span></p><p><strong><span>McChrystal: </span></strong><span>If we think about the times we&#8217;ve been in leadership positions and we had followers that we very much valued or appreciated, often they were ones who took the time to understand what we as leaders were trying to do and they gave us credit for intent if not perfect guidance. They filled in the blanks. If someone does only exactly what you tell them to do, the result is often not quite right.</span></p><p><span>Effective followership is a combination of trying to put yourself in the mind of the leader, trying to understand what that leader wants to have occur&#8212;the desired outcome&#8212;and then filling in the holes so you get there.</span></p><p><span>There&#8217;s also value in things like overt loyalty. Sometimes leaders need subordinates who stand up in front of other followers and say &#8220;Okay, this is what we&#8217;re going to do.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Understanding the power of good followership helps prepare a person for leadership.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan: </span></strong><span>You&#8217;ve acknowledged that a multi-generational, diverse workforce requires leaders who can build consensus and a shared sense of purpose. What kind of behaviors enable a leader to do that?</span></p><p><strong><span>McChrystal: </span></strong><span>I think one of the first is establishing a connection with followers. Followers must believe that they&#8217;re an important part of the success equation, not just automatons responding to the leader&#8217;s guidance. And they must know that the leader believes that, too.</span></p><p><span>A multi-generational and diverse workforce brings different perspectives. They laugh at different jokes, they wear different clothing, etc. The best thing a leader can do in this kind of environment is to show empathy. I&#8217;m not saying sympathy. I mean </span><em><span>empathy</span></em><span>&#8212;the ability to listen and understand and acknowledge that everyone has a different viewpoint. When you do that, you&#8217;re showing that you respect people and appreciate their perspectives.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan: </span></strong><span>Years ago at Campbell Soup Company I worked with a very effective CEO who used to say that the quality of your ideas is not directly proportional to your title or where your parking place is located.</span></p><p><strong><span>McChrystal:</span></strong><span> That&#8217;s absolutely right!</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan: </span></strong><span>One of the people you highlight in your book is Leonard Bernstein, conductor of the New York Philharmonic. What cues can other leaders glean from an orchestra conductor?</span></p><p><strong><span>McChrystal: </span></strong><span>For a long time, orchestras didn&#8217;t have conductors. Conductors arose in the nineteenth century and the baton because the symbol of power. In reality, what a good conductor does is help every member of the orchestra understand the music in a similar way. A good conductor paints a picture of what the music should sound like when all the musicians play together. A good conductor provides vision and enthusiasm. And then&#8212;in the moment&#8212;the conductor must provide a coordinating function so all the musicians focus on their own technical excellence and are enabled to perform as an orchestra as opposed to individuals.</span></p><p><span>I like to remind people that conductors don&#8217;t create any music. If the orchestra were not present, all the arm swinging in the world by the conductor would produce nothing but sweat. The magic is in the connection between the conductor and the musicians.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cv5S!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F490cf987-6317-4c6e-893a-4b8e36e2ac8e_1054x423.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cv5S!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F490cf987-6317-4c6e-893a-4b8e36e2ac8e_1054x423.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cv5S!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F490cf987-6317-4c6e-893a-4b8e36e2ac8e_1054x423.jpeg 848w, 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Why do so many people in leadership positions seem to have missed that lesson? What price are they paying?</span></p><p><strong><span>McChrystal: </span></strong><span>A lot of people equate positional power with real power. Of course there&#8217;s some power in position&#8212;for example, enabling a person to approve or reject certain things. They might be able to promote or fire people. But the reality is that the power to truly influence people&#8217;s behavior is strongest when it&#8217;s all about example.</span></p><p><span>In the Army I once had a battalion commander who wore his T-shirts backwards because he said he&#8217;d learned in Vietnam that soldiers were less vulnerable if their T-shirts covered more of their neck, which would be visible to the enemy. I noticed that a tremendous number of people in the battalion were wearing their T-shirt backwards simply because this very credible individual had said this was a good idea.</span></p><p><span>In my view, real, long-term power comes from the ability to persuade people that they should do or not do something based on your suggestion or example. That&#8217;s much more effective than transactional things based on only title or position.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan:</span></strong><span> Of course in many organizations we find people with tremendous influence because of who they </span><em><span>are</span></em><span> rather than rank or tenure.</span></p><p><strong><span>McChrystal: </span></strong><span>Yes, that&#8217;s so true. As you suggest, the most influential people in an organization are often not the people with the best parking places.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan: </span></strong><span>You point out that leadership success is highly contextual. How would you advise leaders to use situational awareness to enhance their likelihood of producing positive results?</span></p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 89: Shawn Vanderhoven — Why Great Leaders Know When to Tap the Brakes]]></title><description><![CDATA[Shawn Vanderhoven joins Rodger Dean Duncan to explain how leaders calibrate speed, protect deep work, and create the social conditions for sustainable performance.]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-89-shawn-vanderhoven-tap-brakes-deep-work</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-89-shawn-vanderhoven-tap-brakes-deep-work</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LeaderSHOP]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 09:30:24 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/212789347/d8d507cb751b4f56ed19915cc87393eb.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In today&#8217;s fast-paced workplace, many leaders assume that moving faster is the key to higher performance. Leadership researcher Shawn Vanderhoven challenges that belief, arguing that sustainable success comes not from constant activity but from creating the conditions where people can focus on the work that matters most. Drawing on years of research with organizations such as Amazon, Google, and LinkedIn, he demonstrates that the most effective leaders know when to slow down so their teams can ultimately move faster in the right direction.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fBmv!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c6b705e-6aa4-431e-9193-63c23e997c36_450x195.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fBmv!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c6b705e-6aa4-431e-9193-63c23e997c36_450x195.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fBmv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c6b705e-6aa4-431e-9193-63c23e997c36_450x195.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fBmv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c6b705e-6aa4-431e-9193-63c23e997c36_450x195.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fBmv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c6b705e-6aa4-431e-9193-63c23e997c36_450x195.jpeg" width="450" height="195" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2c6b705e-6aa4-431e-9193-63c23e997c36_450x195.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:195,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:29589,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/212789347?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c6b705e-6aa4-431e-9193-63c23e997c36_450x195.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fBmv!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c6b705e-6aa4-431e-9193-63c23e997c36_450x195.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fBmv!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c6b705e-6aa4-431e-9193-63c23e997c36_450x195.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fBmv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c6b705e-6aa4-431e-9193-63c23e997c36_450x195.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fBmv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c6b705e-6aa4-431e-9193-63c23e997c36_450x195.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><p>Vanderhoven explains that productivity is fundamentally a social challenge rather than an individual one. Leaders shape the environment in which others work through the priorities they set, the meetings they schedule, the way they delegate, and the expectations they create. By intentionally reducing distractions, clarifying priorities, and making room for deep, focused work, leaders unlock higher performance while reducing burnout and unnecessary complexity.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qZl_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1cca99b-7a4a-4a6d-9f7f-1ad2d4e24365_450x225.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qZl_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1cca99b-7a4a-4a6d-9f7f-1ad2d4e24365_450x225.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qZl_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1cca99b-7a4a-4a6d-9f7f-1ad2d4e24365_450x225.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qZl_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1cca99b-7a4a-4a6d-9f7f-1ad2d4e24365_450x225.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qZl_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1cca99b-7a4a-4a6d-9f7f-1ad2d4e24365_450x225.jpeg" width="450" height="225" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c1cca99b-7a4a-4a6d-9f7f-1ad2d4e24365_450x225.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:225,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:28730,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/212789347?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1cca99b-7a4a-4a6d-9f7f-1ad2d4e24365_450x225.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qZl_!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1cca99b-7a4a-4a6d-9f7f-1ad2d4e24365_450x225.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qZl_!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1cca99b-7a4a-4a6d-9f7f-1ad2d4e24365_450x225.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qZl_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1cca99b-7a4a-4a6d-9f7f-1ad2d4e24365_450x225.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qZl_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1cca99b-7a4a-4a6d-9f7f-1ad2d4e24365_450x225.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ul><li><p>Great leaders don&#8217;t confuse speed with progress. They know when to tap the brakes, creating clarity and focus that ultimately enables their teams to achieve better results.</p></li><li><p>Productivity is shaped by the environment leaders create. Every meeting, email, delegation, and conversation either supports deep work or contributes to unnecessary distraction.</p></li><li><p>Leaders earn trust by tuning in before they jump in. Understanding a person&#8217;s current workload before assigning new responsibilities demonstrates respect and leads to better decisions for both the individual and the team.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B8I4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c918f76-2cc9-4d13-bb14-90c893086499_450x171.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B8I4!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c918f76-2cc9-4d13-bb14-90c893086499_450x171.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B8I4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c918f76-2cc9-4d13-bb14-90c893086499_450x171.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B8I4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c918f76-2cc9-4d13-bb14-90c893086499_450x171.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B8I4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c918f76-2cc9-4d13-bb14-90c893086499_450x171.jpeg" width="450" height="171" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6c918f76-2cc9-4d13-bb14-90c893086499_450x171.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:171,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:20813,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/212789347?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c918f76-2cc9-4d13-bb14-90c893086499_450x171.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B8I4!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c918f76-2cc9-4d13-bb14-90c893086499_450x171.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B8I4!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c918f76-2cc9-4d13-bb14-90c893086499_450x171.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B8I4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c918f76-2cc9-4d13-bb14-90c893086499_450x171.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B8I4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c918f76-2cc9-4d13-bb14-90c893086499_450x171.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ol><li><p>Before adding another task to someone&#8217;s workload, pause long enough to understand what they are already responsible for and discuss priorities together.</p></li><li><p>Review your meetings, emails, and communication habits to identify ways you may unintentionally be creating distractions for your team.</p></li><li><p>Before delegating work, ask, &#8220;What are you currently working on?&#8221; ask &#8220;If you take this on, what would you need to set aside?&#8221; to ensure expectations remain realistic and sustainable.</p></li></ol>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[New Leadership Role? Find the Right Tools for Success]]></title><description><![CDATA[Self-awareness is the linchpin to becoming a successful leader.]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/new-leadership-role-find-the-right</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/new-leadership-role-find-the-right</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rodger Dean Duncan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2026 06:01:18 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yIAy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa13fe046-8648-438d-ad19-3ba3a250b341_1280x853.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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The answer is easy: inadequate preparation for leadership.</span></p><p><span>Too many &#8220;leaders&#8221; reach their positions through attrition. They&#8217;re shifted into leadership roles because somebody else retires or otherwise moves on. They may have been competent in sales or engineering or some other role, so it&#8217;s assumed they can lead. But they often can&#8217;t</span></p><p><span>An instructive example comes to mind. Frank, a new client, invited me to his office. He had just become CEO of a global energy firm. The founder, in his mid-80s, had finally decided to &#8220;step aside.&#8221; (He couldn&#8217;t bring himself to use the word &#8220;retire.&#8221;)</span></p><p><span>Here&#8217;s our conversation&#8212;</span></p><p><span>Frank: &#8220;I want you to write a speech for me.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Rodger: &#8220;I don&#8217;t write speeches anymore.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Frank: &#8220;But you can do it, can&#8217;t you?&#8221; (He knew I could do it, because earlier in my career I wrote speeches for presidential cabinet officers, U.S. Senators, and others.)</span></p><p><span>Rodger: &#8220;Yes, I can write speeches. But that&#8217;s not what I do now. I coach people on leadership and performance issues.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Frank: &#8220;Well, I need you to write a speech for me.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Rodger: &#8220;Who&#8217;s your audience?&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Frank: &#8220;Well, I don&#8217;t have an audience yet.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Rodger: &#8220;Then why do you need a speech?&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Frank: &#8220;Because in my new role I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll be called on to give a speech.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Rodger: &#8220;But, Frank, a good speech is prepared with a specific audience in mind. The message should be tailored to the needs and interests of the people you&#8217;re addressing.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Frank: &#8220;Well, I&#8217;d just like to have a good speech in hand so I&#8217;ll be ready when I&#8217;m asked.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>I could see he was determined to have a speech for his imaginary audience. So I agreed to write a speech for him.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;So, what would you like to talk about in this speech to a hypothetical group that hasn&#8217;t invited you yet?&#8221;</span></p><p><span>&#8220;I want to talk about leadership,&#8221; Frank said.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;Okay, that&#8217;s a pretty broad topic. What do you want to say about leadership?&#8221;</span></p><p><span>&#8220;That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m asking you to tell me!&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Sometimes I&#8217;m slow, but it finally dawned on me. Frank wanted a speech, yes. But what he was </span><em><span>really</span></em><span> asking for was a dose of leadership coaching. He had been an officer of a multi-billion-dollar company for several years, but the title came with no meaningful grooming. All the decisions&#8212;even the relatively minor ones&#8212;had been made by the founder who was now gone. Frank was ill prepared for his new role, and he felt like a kid trying to ice skate barefooted.</span></p><p><span>Unfortunately, Frank&#8217;s predicament was not unusual. In his organization, title was often mistaken for competence. Position and tenure were mistaken for leadership.</span></p><p><span>Enter Scott Jeffrey Miller. He&#8217;s the former executive vice president of thought leadership at FranklinCovey, one of the world&#8217;s top people development firms.</span></p><p><span>Miller&#8217;s book is </span><em><span>Management Mess to Leadership Success: 30 Challenges to Become the Leader You Would Follow.</span></em></p><p><span>This book is aimed at people who feel they weren&#8217;t perfectly groomed for leadership. It speaks to leaders at all levels with a bit of &#8220;mess&#8221; in them. Miller can relate, and he openly acknowledges his own career missteps along the way to his current role.</span></p><p><span>Miller offers immediately usable advice on a wide range of issues like how to:</span></p><p><span>&#183; lead difficult conversations</span></p><p><span>&#183; inspire trust</span></p><p><span>&#183; actively listen</span></p><p><span>&#183; challenge paradigms</span></p><p><span>&#183; create a clear and actionable vision for a team</span></p><p><span>&#183; make it safe to tell the truth</span></p><p><span>&#183; protect your team against urgencies</span></p><p><span>&#183; lead through change</span></p><p><span>&#183; make high-value decisions</span></p><p><span>I appreciate Scott&#8217;s candor, and enjoyed our conversation.</span></p><p><strong><span>Rodger Dean Duncan: </span></strong><span>You&#8217;re very transparent in acknowledging your own past missteps along the way to leadership success. What role do you think self-awareness plays in a person&#8217;s development as a leader?</span></p><p><strong><span>Scott Miller: </span></strong><span>Self-awareness is the linchpin to becoming a successful leader. Your position in the organization is inversely correlated to the level of feedback&#8212;</span><em><span>truthful</span></em><span> feedback&#8212;you receive. People don&#8217;t want to create a &#8220;career cul-de-sac&#8221; for themselves by telling their leader&#8212;let alone a member of the C-suite&#8212;how they dominate the conversation in meetings or how epically boring their last speech was. So, leaders must set up their own feedback loops with trusted colleagues at all levels, to prevent the inevitable insulation that surrounds leaders. Most importantly, they must make it safe for others to share their truth with them, without fear of reprisal. And leaders have to listen without becoming defensive. <br><br>Confidence drives humility. Humility flows from feedback. Feedback leads to self-awareness, and self-awareness can create vulnerability. Who doesn&#8217;t want to work with a confident, humble, self-aware, and vulnerable leader? I certainly do. Too many leaders think their intellect and instincts will secure their position at the top. They are sadly mistaken and often never see their ousting coming. Had they been more self-aware, they could have prevented the wave or at least had time to grab their surfboard.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan: </span></strong><span>People are sometimes thrust into leadership positions with little or no training for their new roles. What&#8217;s your advice for getting up to speed while avoiding serious mistakes?</span></p><p><strong><span>Miller: </span></strong><span>First, be sure that leading people is right for you. Become mindful of what validates and motivates you. There&#8217;s no shame in saying no to leadership roles. Frankly, not everyone should lead people. Leadership requires a vastly different set of skills and strengths than most high performers possess. <br><br>If you do choose to take the role, assess your paradigms about how you perceive success and the contributions of those on your team. As Liz Wiseman advises, great leaders are genius makers, not geniuses. Consistently ask yourself, &#8220;How can I shine the light on my colleagues, raise them up, and leave them better than I found them? Are they better or worse off because of my leadership?&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Remember, humility flows from confidence, not arrogance. Perhaps most importantly, remind yourself that your key role is not to be right or always have the answers. Your role is to create a culture where the smartest, most trustworthy people choose to collaborate effectively&#8212;the key to any winning team.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan: </span></strong><span>Many of the 30 challenges you suggest for leaders seem to be common sense. But as Will Rogers famously said, &#8220;Common sense ain&#8217;t all that common.&#8221; Why do so many people seem to miss the common sense principles and practices that have been around for ages? What&#8217;s the attraction of alternate behaviors that produce less-than-stellar results?</span></p><p><strong><span>Miller: </span></strong><span>We spend most of our formal education learning technical skills, refining our business acumen, and learning to be persuasive, convincing negotiators. But these skills have little to do with creating a winning culture, which requires the ability to build high-trust, effective relationships. A leader&#8217;s ability to do that is often the reason people choose to quit &#8230; or create lifelong careers inside an organization.</span></p><p><span>Culture is every organization&#8217;s most precious asset, and it can&#8217;t be left to chance. Either create it intentionally through the deliberate behaviors of your leaders, or let it devolve into something you can&#8217;t possibly control. How people communicate, share information, coach, collaborate, and partner with each other is the lifeblood of innovation and success. Woe are the leaders who forget this and neglect to understand that their number-one priority is to nurture and coach people. That requires high-courage feedback, straight talk, and clarity around goals, while setting a clear vision of success for every role.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zGBf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F80b03f6d-b3c5-49da-98b4-e64ca8abb34d_894x390.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zGBf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F80b03f6d-b3c5-49da-98b4-e64ca8abb34d_894x390.jpeg 424w, 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As the old PR adage goes, &#8220;Absent the facts, people make stuff up.&#8221; It&#8217;s the same in any team, division, or organization. </span><em><span>Invest</span></em><span> the time to state your intentions to shareholders, vendors, leaders, and team members, especially before a high-stakes conversation when emotions may be running high and agendas are suspect.</span></p><p><span>When both your supporters and your detractors (yes, you have both) are clear on your intent, it&#8217;s less likely that you will be misunderstood or that your behavior will be met with suspicion.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan: </span></strong><span>Some well-meaning people violate their own commitments without even realizing it. What&#8217;s a good approach to replacing that self-destructive habit with one of total reliability?</span></p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 88: David Epstein — Why the Right Constraints Unlock Better Leadership]]></title><description><![CDATA[David Epstein joins Rodger Dean Duncan to show how well-designed constraints sharpen priorities, reduce overload, and push teams beyond the path of least resistance.]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-88-david-epstein-useful-constraints</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-88-david-epstein-useful-constraints</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LeaderSHOP]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2026 09:30:40 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/212788889/e0feed1927a4d8b8bd13188541943347.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conventional wisdom tells us that greater freedom, unlimited choices, and abundant resources lead to better performance. Bestselling author David Epstein challenges that assumption. Drawing from research in psychology, business, sports, design, and innovation, he argues that meaningful constraints often produce better thinking, stronger creativity, and more effective leadership. Rather than limiting our potential, the right boundaries help us focus on what matters most.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KwFW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2753d8ab-84ff-4878-bb9d-183d1c075cfc_450x205.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KwFW!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2753d8ab-84ff-4878-bb9d-183d1c075cfc_450x205.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KwFW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2753d8ab-84ff-4878-bb9d-183d1c075cfc_450x205.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KwFW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2753d8ab-84ff-4878-bb9d-183d1c075cfc_450x205.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KwFW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2753d8ab-84ff-4878-bb9d-183d1c075cfc_450x205.jpeg" width="450" height="205" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2753d8ab-84ff-4878-bb9d-183d1c075cfc_450x205.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:205,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:30168,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/212788889?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2753d8ab-84ff-4878-bb9d-183d1c075cfc_450x205.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KwFW!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2753d8ab-84ff-4878-bb9d-183d1c075cfc_450x205.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KwFW!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2753d8ab-84ff-4878-bb9d-183d1c075cfc_450x205.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KwFW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2753d8ab-84ff-4878-bb9d-183d1c075cfc_450x205.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KwFW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2753d8ab-84ff-4878-bb9d-183d1c075cfc_450x205.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><p>Epstein illustrates how constraints force people to clarify priorities, question assumptions, and discover solutions they would never have considered otherwise. From Pixar and Dr. Seuss to entrepreneurs, athletes, and product designers, he demonstrates that breakthrough thinking rarely emerges from unlimited possibilities. Instead, great leaders create environments where thoughtful constraints sharpen attention, encourage experimentation, and transform complexity into meaningful progress.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WC-0!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3112a1-781f-42a3-8476-435f0fc2bef1_450x225.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WC-0!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3112a1-781f-42a3-8476-435f0fc2bef1_450x225.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WC-0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3112a1-781f-42a3-8476-435f0fc2bef1_450x225.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WC-0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3112a1-781f-42a3-8476-435f0fc2bef1_450x225.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WC-0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3112a1-781f-42a3-8476-435f0fc2bef1_450x225.jpeg" width="450" height="225" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/fe3112a1-781f-42a3-8476-435f0fc2bef1_450x225.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:225,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:28730,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/212788889?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3112a1-781f-42a3-8476-435f0fc2bef1_450x225.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WC-0!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3112a1-781f-42a3-8476-435f0fc2bef1_450x225.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WC-0!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3112a1-781f-42a3-8476-435f0fc2bef1_450x225.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WC-0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3112a1-781f-42a3-8476-435f0fc2bef1_450x225.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WC-0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe3112a1-781f-42a3-8476-435f0fc2bef1_450x225.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ul><li><p>Constraints often stimulate creativity rather than suppress it. Clear boundaries force people to think more deeply, solve problems more effectively, and discover innovative solutions they might otherwise overlook.</p></li><li><p>Unlimited choices frequently reduce satisfaction and decision quality. Leaders create better outcomes by simplifying options and helping people focus on what truly matters.</p></li><li><p>The most successful innovators solve well-defined problems. Rather than trying to do everything at once, they concentrate their efforts on addressing a specific need with exceptional clarity.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RpBd!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121bd9c7-dd61-4875-be02-8a7567f05a43_450x171.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RpBd!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121bd9c7-dd61-4875-be02-8a7567f05a43_450x171.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RpBd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121bd9c7-dd61-4875-be02-8a7567f05a43_450x171.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RpBd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121bd9c7-dd61-4875-be02-8a7567f05a43_450x171.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RpBd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121bd9c7-dd61-4875-be02-8a7567f05a43_450x171.jpeg" width="450" height="171" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/121bd9c7-dd61-4875-be02-8a7567f05a43_450x171.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:171,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:20813,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/212788889?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121bd9c7-dd61-4875-be02-8a7567f05a43_450x171.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RpBd!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121bd9c7-dd61-4875-be02-8a7567f05a43_450x171.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RpBd!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121bd9c7-dd61-4875-be02-8a7567f05a43_450x171.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RpBd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121bd9c7-dd61-4875-be02-8a7567f05a43_450x171.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RpBd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F121bd9c7-dd61-4875-be02-8a7567f05a43_450x171.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ol><li><p>When facing a difficult problem, intentionally establish a few meaningful constraints before searching for solutions. Let the boundaries sharpen your thinking rather than limit it.</p></li><li><p>Simplify decisions whenever possible by identifying the few options that genuinely matter instead of trying to evaluate every possibility.</p></li><li><p>Before launching a new initiative, clearly define the specific problem you are trying to solve and resist the temptation to solve several problems at once.</p></li></ol>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Multiplier Effect Can Make You a Better Leader]]></title><description><![CDATA[Becoming someone worth following requires much more than merely &#8220;letting go&#8221; of leadership prerogatives.]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/the-multiplier-effect-can-make-you</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/the-multiplier-effect-can-make-you</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rodger Dean Duncan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 06:01:31 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6HmO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F837c5724-a834-4d1b-8698-d7f6f11a34b9_1920x1280.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6HmO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F837c5724-a834-4d1b-8698-d7f6f11a34b9_1920x1280.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6HmO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F837c5724-a834-4d1b-8698-d7f6f11a34b9_1920x1280.jpeg 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><strong>By Rodger Dean Duncan</strong></p><p><span>Most of us know by now that a primary job of the leader is not to create followers, but to develop more leaders.</span></p><p><span>I&#8217;ve observed this process up close and personal.</span></p><p><span>I worked with a CEO at Campbell Soup Company who, rather than hoard all the leadership power for himself, gladly shared both responsibility and authority with many others. I see similar behaviors by top leaders in agribusiness, high tech, nuclear power, pharmaceuticals, engineering and health care.</span></p><p><span>These leaders are unusually effective because they understand their roles as developers of people.</span></p><p><span>This process of multiplying leadership lies at the heart of </span><em><span>The 100X Leader: How to Become Someone Worth Following.</span></em><span> Leadership experts Jeremie Kubicek and Steve Cockram explain how forward-thinking leaders help others achieve their full potential.</span></p><p><span>Becoming someone worth following, the authors insist, requires much more than merely &#8220;letting go&#8221; of leadership prerogatives. And it&#8217;s more than a shift in mindset. It requires deliberate, day-after-day attention to the nurturing of others. The result is a collaborative culture and a deeper talent pool of leaders. Everyone wins.</span></p><p><strong><span>Rodger Dean Duncan: </span></strong><span>The four ways to multiply, you say, are Informing, Training, Coaching, and Apprenticeship. How can a leader decide which approach to emphasize in a given situation?</span></p><p><strong><span>Steve Cockram</span></strong><span>: It really depends on the size of group you&#8217;re working with and what your intentions are.</span></p><p><span>Informing is about efficiency, but is less transformational. If you want to communicate new information or share an inspiring event, then an email or a keynote address are examples of speaking to many people in one setting, but has different impact.</span></p><p><span>Training, on the other hand, is more focused on 12 to 70 people where there&#8217;s a specific agenda to provide information in more of a teaching session.</span></p><p><span>Coaching provides more relational access and depth as the goal becomes helping people on specific issues and providing more accountability.</span></p><p><span>Apprenticeship is truly meant to transfer knowledge, wisdom and skills to expand people&#8217;s capacity.</span></p><p><span>The leader must know when to apply each to what group and for what reason.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan: </span></strong><span>You talk about leadership as an act of liberation. What does that mean? Who&#8217;s being liberated from what?</span></p><p><strong><span>Jeremie Kubicek</span></strong><span>: To liberate is to calibrate high support and high challenge in order to empower someone in a true growth culture. Most people suffer from some form of self-preservation and fear. A liberating leader learns what the other person needs and provides appropriate support or challenge to help people overcome their negative patterns and get to a higher level of influence.</span></p><p><span>If you give support but no challenge, you are protecting. If you give challenge but no support, you will tend to dominate. If you give neither, you are abdicating.</span></p><p><span>Truly liberating leaders fight for the highest possible good of those they lead.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan: </span></strong><span>It&#8217;s been said that we never graduate from the school of self-awareness. How does that relate to a person&#8217;s ability to lead?</span></p><p><strong><span>Cockram</span></strong><span>: We can&#8217;t give away what we don&#8217;t possess. We as leaders must live out what we teach. I think that&#8217;s why we&#8217;re all so disgusted when we see political, sports or religious leaders in the news who have committed a crime, been dishonest, lost their cool, etc. We think to ourselves, &#8220;If they can&#8217;t lead themselves, why would we follow them?&#8221;</span></p><p><span>We must constantly know ourselves, so we can lead ourselves. We lead ourselves by understanding our patterns and making better choices or actions. Once we practice that, then we can start leading others because we become credible.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan: </span></strong><span>Why do you use a greenhouse as the metaphor to describe organizational culture?</span></p><p><strong><span>Kubicek</span></strong><span>: The greenhouse is such a great visual picture of health. The gardener (leader) spends time, cultivation and attention to make sure the plants (employees) are thriving.</span></p><p><span>A gardener wouldn&#8217;t think of buying a beautiful plant and then just leaving it to die, or expecting it to thrive on its own without needing tending. But some organizational leaders think they can just leave their people on their own and expect them to thrive.</span></p><p><span>Who has responsibility for a plant&#8217;s growth? The plant or the gardener? We say both. The same is true for employees. They want to grow and the leader should want them to grow as well. People need time, vision and encouragement in the same way that plants need water, sunlight and the proper soil.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan: </span></strong><span>Subculture is often recognized as the key to organizational change. What has been your experience in dealing with subcultures?</span></p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 87: John O'Leary — Why Great Leaders Choose Responsibility Over Circumstance]]></title><description><![CDATA[John O'Leary joins Rodger Dean Duncan to share how responsibility, vision, gratitude, and belief in others turn painful circumstances into purposeful leadership.]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-87-john-oleary-responsibility-over-circumstance</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-87-john-oleary-responsibility-over-circumstance</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LeaderSHOP]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2026 09:31:06 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/212788556/7f65ff4d2ccd2875c165f63ca02d6d49.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At age nine, John O&#8217;Leary survived a devastating house fire that left him burned over 100 percent of his body and given virtually no chance of survival. Rather than allowing tragedy to define his future, he learned from his parents, caregivers, mentors, and friends that our circumstances do not determine our destiny&#8212;our choices do. Today, O&#8217;Leary inspires audiences around the world with a message rooted in resilience, responsibility, gratitude, and purposeful living.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HPxv!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04ccbaa4-7f19-4151-ada8-ed4afb9f44a8_450x207.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HPxv!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04ccbaa4-7f19-4151-ada8-ed4afb9f44a8_450x207.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HPxv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04ccbaa4-7f19-4151-ada8-ed4afb9f44a8_450x207.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HPxv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04ccbaa4-7f19-4151-ada8-ed4afb9f44a8_450x207.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HPxv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04ccbaa4-7f19-4151-ada8-ed4afb9f44a8_450x207.jpeg" width="450" height="207" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/04ccbaa4-7f19-4151-ada8-ed4afb9f44a8_450x207.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:207,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:33896,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/212788556?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04ccbaa4-7f19-4151-ada8-ed4afb9f44a8_450x207.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HPxv!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04ccbaa4-7f19-4151-ada8-ed4afb9f44a8_450x207.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HPxv!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04ccbaa4-7f19-4151-ada8-ed4afb9f44a8_450x207.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HPxv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04ccbaa4-7f19-4151-ada8-ed4afb9f44a8_450x207.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HPxv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04ccbaa4-7f19-4151-ada8-ed4afb9f44a8_450x207.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><p>O&#8217;Leary shares powerful stories that illustrate how authentic leadership begins with personal ownership. Whether describing the nurse who taught him to walk, the father who challenged him to choose victory over victimhood, or the broadcaster who faithfully encouraged him for months, each story reinforces a common truth: great leaders empower others to discover strengths they cannot yet see in themselves. Leadership is ultimately less about removing obstacles than helping people believe they can overcome them.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s-5s!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefcc1cba-babd-4d5e-9e3e-71bd97448189_450x225.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s-5s!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefcc1cba-babd-4d5e-9e3e-71bd97448189_450x225.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s-5s!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefcc1cba-babd-4d5e-9e3e-71bd97448189_450x225.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s-5s!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefcc1cba-babd-4d5e-9e3e-71bd97448189_450x225.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s-5s!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefcc1cba-babd-4d5e-9e3e-71bd97448189_450x225.jpeg" width="450" height="225" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/efcc1cba-babd-4d5e-9e3e-71bd97448189_450x225.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:225,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:28730,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/212788556?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefcc1cba-babd-4d5e-9e3e-71bd97448189_450x225.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s-5s!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefcc1cba-babd-4d5e-9e3e-71bd97448189_450x225.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s-5s!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefcc1cba-babd-4d5e-9e3e-71bd97448189_450x225.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s-5s!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefcc1cba-babd-4d5e-9e3e-71bd97448189_450x225.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s-5s!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefcc1cba-babd-4d5e-9e3e-71bd97448189_450x225.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ul><li><p>Great leaders call people toward responsibility rather than rescuing them from it. Empowerment begins when leaders help others recognize their own capacity to overcome difficult circumstances.</p></li><li><p>Every conversation has the potential to shape someone&#8217;s future. A few thoughtful words spoken with sincerity and conviction can influence another person&#8217;s life for decades.</p></li><li><p>Leadership often requires believing in people before they believe in themselves. By seeing possibility where others see limitation, leaders help unlock growth, confidence, and resilience.</p></li><li><p>Gratitude changes how we experience life. While circumstances may remain unchanged, choosing to focus on opportunities instead of obstacles transforms both perspective and performance.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Flf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a242f27-0aea-4976-ad79-94a4e7020af7_450x171.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Flf!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a242f27-0aea-4976-ad79-94a4e7020af7_450x171.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Flf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a242f27-0aea-4976-ad79-94a4e7020af7_450x171.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Flf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a242f27-0aea-4976-ad79-94a4e7020af7_450x171.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Flf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a242f27-0aea-4976-ad79-94a4e7020af7_450x171.jpeg" width="450" height="171" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0a242f27-0aea-4976-ad79-94a4e7020af7_450x171.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:171,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:20813,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/212788556?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a242f27-0aea-4976-ad79-94a4e7020af7_450x171.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Flf!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a242f27-0aea-4976-ad79-94a4e7020af7_450x171.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Flf!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a242f27-0aea-4976-ad79-94a4e7020af7_450x171.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Flf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a242f27-0aea-4976-ad79-94a4e7020af7_450x171.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Flf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a242f27-0aea-4976-ad79-94a4e7020af7_450x171.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ol><li><p>The next time someone faces a difficult challenge, resist the temptation to solve it for them. Instead, encourage them to discover their own ability to take the next step.</p></li><li><p>Never underestimate the impact of a conversation. Look for opportunities to speak words that encourage, challenge, and inspire someone who may need them more than you realize.</p></li><li><p>Identify someone whose potential exceeds their current confidence. Intentionally encourage them and communicate your belief in what they are capable of becoming.</p></li></ol>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Lackluster Teamwork? Tips For Boosting Performance ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Among many other innovative practices, &#8220;job sculpting&#8221; can help motivate team members]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/lackluster-teamwork-tips-for-boosting</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/lackluster-teamwork-tips-for-boosting</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rodger Dean Duncan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 06:01:07 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wH04!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d131146-7021-41fd-98a7-46fb2386b027_5472x3648.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><strong>By Rodger Dean Duncan</strong></p><p><span>You&#8217;ve seen most of the teamwork clich&#233;s:</span></p><ul><li><p><span>Together Everyone Achieves More</span></p></li><li><p><span>Great things never come from comfort zones</span></p></li><li><p><span>Teamwork makes the dream work</span></p></li><li><p><span>Individually we&#8217;re a drop, but together we&#8217;re an ocean</span></p></li></ul><p><span>But of course posters on the employee cafeteria wall do not transform glib slogans into reality. Effective teamwork requires a deep understanding of human behaviors and a disciplined approach to execution.</span></p><p><span>Both of those ingredients are abundantly present in </span><em><span>The Best Team Wins: The New Science of High Performance</span></em><span> by Adrian Gostick and Chester Elton.</span></p><p><span>Undergirded by 850,000 employee engagement surveys and volumes of other research, Gostick and Elton offer a clear roadmap to the kind of teamwork that most leaders only dream about.</span></p><p><span>Their previous books&#8212;</span><em><span>The Carrot Principles</span></em><span> and </span><em><span>All In</span></em><span>&#8212;were #1 </span><em><span>New York Times, USA Today</span></em><span> and </span><em><span>Wall Street Journal </span></em><span>bestsellers. </span><em><span>The Best Team Wins</span></em><span> has earned the same accolades.</span></p><p><span>I visited with Adrian about teamwork issues that matter to leaders everywhere.</span></p><p><strong><span>Rodger Dean Duncan: </span></strong><span>Your research shows that many of today&#8217;s younger employees&#8212;having grown up as recognition junkies&#8212;seem to be more strongly motivated by recognition for their good work than do workers from previous generations. How can leaders best accommodate Millennials&#8217; desire for recognition without turning off older workers who are motivated by other things?</span></p><p><strong><span>Adrian Gostick: </span></strong><span>True. What our new research shows&#8212;as we&#8217;ve done in-depth interviews with more than 25,000 Millennials&#8212;is that younger workers&#8217; need for extrinsic recognition from their bosses is three times greater than for older workers.</span></p><p><span>However, we find that they aren&#8217;t looking for meaningless pats on the back. What they are looking for is reinforcement that their work matters and that it&#8217;s on track with the needs of the organization.</span></p><p><span>In other words, they&#8217;re looking for more feedback&#8212;of the positive and constructive types. The benefit of offering more and better recognition is a leader is providing more feedback to her people&#8212;younger or older&#8212;and few workers are going to be turned off by receiving more of that.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan: </span></strong><span>What are the keys to effective recognition?</span></p><p><strong><span>Gostick: </span></strong><span>When it&#8217;s offered, smart recognition is tied to the organization or team&#8217;s core values, it&#8217;s given soon after the achievement, and it&#8217;s frequent in a team. Most importantly, the recognition is tied to what motivates a person.</span></p><p><span>Smart leaders use a knowledge of a worker&#8217;s individual motivators to tailor expressions of gratitude to each team member.</span></p><p><span>For instance, someone driven by concepts such as autonomy and excelling might feel best recognized when given a chance to work independently on an important project, while someone who is more motivated by concepts such as teamwork and friendship would likely feel more valued when thrown a party with work friends in celebration of a big win. It all depends on the individual.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan: </span></strong><span>The philosopher Frederick Nietzsche famously said that &#8220;He who has a </span><em><span>why</span></em><span> to live for can endure almost any </span><em><span>how</span></em><span>.&#8221; What are some good ways for a leader to help workers connect the dots between their work and their values?</span></p><p><strong><span>Gostick: </span></strong><span>We&#8217;ve found believing in a noble cause rises all ships in the harbor. For instance, a strong </span><em><span>why</span></em><span> makes older employees more willing to spend time mentoring younger team members and be more open to sharing with them.</span></p><p><span>For Millennials (whom we often call the </span><em><span>Why Generation</span></em><span>), clarity about the cause helps them believe that, even as entry level players, they are making a significant contribution to a mission that matters.</span></p><p><span>To connect the dots between work and values, we encourage leaders to get input on a purpose statement from their team members. In other words: Don&#8217;t do this alone. With that said, we do not recommend asking your team the question: &#8220;What&#8217;s our purpose?&#8221; Instead, make it more human by asking, &#8220;Why do we exist as a team?&#8221; or &#8220;What job do we do for customers?&#8221; or &#8220;What gets you excited to come here every day?&#8221;</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan: </span></strong><span>In many organizations, the performance review is poorly regarded by givers are well as by receivers. Because good coaching is important to a person&#8217;s development, what approach do you recommend regarding the appraisal process?</span></p><p><strong><span>Gostick: </span></strong><span>Instead of relying on the once- or twice-a-year formal review, many of the best leaders we&#8217;ve interviewed hold one-on-one performance review sessions every week or two with each member of their team&#8212;even though many of their people are remote and around the globe. &#8220;&#8217;What do you want to talk about?&#8217; is a great first question.</span></p><p><span>Many prominent firms have decided to either substantially alter the annual performance review or to abandon the practice entirely&#8212;replacing it with other processes for evaluating and developing employees that are more timely, frequent, and in the control of the immediate supervisor. We call this </span><em><span>the continuous review</span></em><span>. The biggest reason for the change: In today&#8217;s fast-moving business environment, a yearly (or half-yearly, for that matter) appraisal is simply not responsive enough to address changes that teams are facing and help people respond.</span></p><p><span>People need much more regular feedback and guidance&#8212;especially younger workers who are unwilling to wait an entire year to learn about their strengths or needed-improvement areas.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h0Hm!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b1e56b2-1cf9-490c-9e5e-837deef9c88a_955x401.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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One section of that manifesto says this&#8212;&#8220;On a dream team, there are no &#8216;brilliant jerks.&#8217; The cost to teamwork is just too high. Our view is that brilliant people are also capable of decent human interactions, and we insist upon that.&#8221; What can leaders do to operationalize that philosophy when forming and managing their teams?</span></p><p><strong><span>Gostick: </span></strong><span>Terrific question. One CEO we interviewed told us his company&#8217;s number one salesperson had just been let go because he had been found to be sexually harassing female staff members. As the CEO told us, &#8220;While you may pay top performers differently and reward them differently, the rules have to apply to everyone exactly the same.&#8221; Many organizations might try to sweep his actions under the rug because he was such a high performer, but the CEO said: &#8220;How long would that have taken to get out? A few days at most. And it would have given our company a black eye. There are no secrets in an organization.&#8221;</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan: </span></strong><span>One of the disciplines you recommend for leaders is &#8220;manage the one.&#8221; What does that look like in actual practice?</span></p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 86: Minette Norman — Why Psychological Safety Begins with How Leaders Listen]]></title><description><![CDATA[Minette Norman joins Rodger Dean Duncan to explain why psychological safety is built through everyday listening, curiosity, and the courage to change your mind.]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-86-minette-norman-psychological-safety-listening</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-86-minette-norman-psychological-safety-listening</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LeaderSHOP]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2026 09:30:58 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/212787508/8c94bc118ec4d5b92c4a2e88be2c36c4.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psychological safety has become one of the most widely discussed leadership concepts in modern organizations, but understanding its importance is much easier than putting it into practice. Leadership consultant and author Minette Norman defines psychological safety as the belief that people can ask questions, seek help, challenge ideas, and take risks without fear of embarrassment, exclusion, or punishment. Leaders who consistently create this environment unlock higher engagement, stronger collaboration, and better organizational performance&#8212;especially during periods of uncertainty.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xA-8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faefc2674-50ff-46cb-9e27-3738a1eda0ec_450x206.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xA-8!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faefc2674-50ff-46cb-9e27-3738a1eda0ec_450x206.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xA-8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faefc2674-50ff-46cb-9e27-3738a1eda0ec_450x206.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xA-8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faefc2674-50ff-46cb-9e27-3738a1eda0ec_450x206.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xA-8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faefc2674-50ff-46cb-9e27-3738a1eda0ec_450x206.jpeg" width="450" height="206" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/aefc2674-50ff-46cb-9e27-3738a1eda0ec_450x206.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:206,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:31769,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/212787508?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faefc2674-50ff-46cb-9e27-3738a1eda0ec_450x206.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xA-8!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faefc2674-50ff-46cb-9e27-3738a1eda0ec_450x206.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xA-8!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faefc2674-50ff-46cb-9e27-3738a1eda0ec_450x206.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xA-8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faefc2674-50ff-46cb-9e27-3738a1eda0ec_450x206.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xA-8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faefc2674-50ff-46cb-9e27-3738a1eda0ec_450x206.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><p>Throughout the conversation, Norman explains that psychological safety is built through thousands of small leadership behaviors rather than grand initiatives. She discusses the importance of pausing before reacting, asking thoughtful questions like &#8220;What am I missing?&#8221;, listening to understand instead of simply responding, welcoming disagreement, and treating mistakes as opportunities for learning. Trust grows not from what leaders say, but from what they repeatedly demonstrate through everyday interactions.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4Dv1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1b79e8b-d979-4bed-947b-f9cfc924945e_450x225.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4Dv1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1b79e8b-d979-4bed-947b-f9cfc924945e_450x225.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4Dv1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1b79e8b-d979-4bed-947b-f9cfc924945e_450x225.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4Dv1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1b79e8b-d979-4bed-947b-f9cfc924945e_450x225.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4Dv1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1b79e8b-d979-4bed-947b-f9cfc924945e_450x225.jpeg" width="450" height="225" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a1b79e8b-d979-4bed-947b-f9cfc924945e_450x225.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:225,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:28730,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/212787508?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1b79e8b-d979-4bed-947b-f9cfc924945e_450x225.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4Dv1!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1b79e8b-d979-4bed-947b-f9cfc924945e_450x225.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4Dv1!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1b79e8b-d979-4bed-947b-f9cfc924945e_450x225.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4Dv1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1b79e8b-d979-4bed-947b-f9cfc924945e_450x225.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4Dv1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1b79e8b-d979-4bed-947b-f9cfc924945e_450x225.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ul><li><p>Psychological safety is built through consistent daily leadership behaviors. Trust develops when leaders repeatedly demonstrate that people can speak honestly, ask questions, challenge ideas, and learn from mistakes without fear of negative consequences.</p></li><li><p>Great leaders replace defensiveness with curiosity. Simple practices such as pausing before responding, asking &#8220;What am I missing?&#8221; and genuinely listening create environments where better ideas and stronger collaboration can flourish.</p></li><li><p>Trust cannot be declared&#8212;it must be demonstrated. Employees decide whether an environment is truly safe by observing how leaders consistently respond to difficult conversations, mistakes, and differing viewpoints.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aijM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff62f310f-d18c-44e4-9cfa-4e2ab9fdad36_450x171.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aijM!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff62f310f-d18c-44e4-9cfa-4e2ab9fdad36_450x171.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aijM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff62f310f-d18c-44e4-9cfa-4e2ab9fdad36_450x171.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aijM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff62f310f-d18c-44e4-9cfa-4e2ab9fdad36_450x171.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aijM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff62f310f-d18c-44e4-9cfa-4e2ab9fdad36_450x171.jpeg" width="450" height="171" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f62f310f-d18c-44e4-9cfa-4e2ab9fdad36_450x171.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:171,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:20813,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/212787508?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff62f310f-d18c-44e4-9cfa-4e2ab9fdad36_450x171.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aijM!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff62f310f-d18c-44e4-9cfa-4e2ab9fdad36_450x171.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aijM!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff62f310f-d18c-44e4-9cfa-4e2ab9fdad36_450x171.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aijM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff62f310f-d18c-44e4-9cfa-4e2ab9fdad36_450x171.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aijM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff62f310f-d18c-44e4-9cfa-4e2ab9fdad36_450x171.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ol><li><p>Before responding to criticism, disagreement, or unexpected questions, intentionally pause for a few seconds to replace an emotional reaction with a thoughtful response.</p></li><li><p>Begin asking your team, &#8220;What am I missing?&#8221; during meetings to invite broader participation and uncover valuable perspectives that may otherwise remain hidden.</p></li><li><p>Pay attention to how you respond when someone challenges your thinking. Make every difficult conversation an opportunity to reinforce trust rather than weaken it.</p></li></ol>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[How to Prepare for a Work Future You Can’t Even See]]></title><description><![CDATA[What will your work look like in five years? In ten? You should bcze preparing now.]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/how-to-prepare-for-a-work-future</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/how-to-prepare-for-a-work-future</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rodger Dean Duncan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2026 05:05:40 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SjtB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe773ffcb-2eeb-4c95-85b0-72dd94216b1d_4222x2994.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SjtB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe773ffcb-2eeb-4c95-85b0-72dd94216b1d_4222x2994.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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D. Laing, we live in a moment of history where change is so fast-paced that we &#8220;begin to see the present only when it is already disappearing.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Change is not just faster. It&#8217;s also exploding in quantity and magnitude. Experts say we can expect more change in our lifetimes than has occurred since the beginning of civilization more than ten millennia ago.</span></p><p><span>Trying to keep up with change can feel like getting trapped on a runaway treadmill. Managing it can be even harder.</span></p><p><span>This reality poses special challenges for people in the workplace.</span></p><p><span>Think about it. Many of the top jobs on LinkedIn didn&#8217;t even exist just a few years ago. It&#8217;s anyone&#8217;s guess how many as-yet-unknown jobs will be the hot tickets ten years from now. Or even five. Or maybe even two.</span></p><p><span>Nobody understands this better than Michelle R. Weise, a renowned thought leader in the field of the future of work and education. She&#8217;s founder of the Strada Institute of the Future of Work. Her thought-provoking book is </span><em><span>Long Life Learning: Preparing for Jobs That Don&#8217;t Even Exist Yet.</span></em></p><p><span>For anyone who wants to take a proactive approach to education and career planning, Michelle&#8217;s insights are worth of consideration.</span></p><p><strong><span>Rodger Dean Duncan: </span></strong><span>Due to the &#8220;algorithmic editing&#8221; of their online searches, many people live inside a so-called &#8220;filter bubble&#8221; and no longer have access to a balanced information diet. What&#8217;s your advice on dealing with such filters?</span></p><p><strong><span>Michelle R. Weise:</span></strong><span> How we relate to one another is changing drastically because of new forms of artificial intelligence. We&#8217;re surrounded by things with which we agree as opposed to differing viewpoints that might challenge our thinking and make us feel uncomfortable. This is hugely problematic as we consider that researchers are suggesting that empathy and emotional intelligence are skills that may empower us to out-compete or better coordinate with machines in the future.</span></p><p><span>At first blush, it seems promising that more automation will force us to demonstrate our uniquely human skills. But just because we&#8217;re human doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean we excel at the human side of work. These aren&#8217;t innate skills; we must practice them.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan:</span></strong><span> So what&#8217;s the implication of this?</span></p><p><strong><span>Weise: </span></strong><span>It&#8217;s hard work putting ourselves in someone else&#8217;s shoes. But it&#8217;s much harder to empathize when we&#8217;re never exposed to those challenging views in the first place. It&#8217;s therefore important that more of our citizenry become aware that this is happening through every single click we make in the apps we use on our smartphones, tablets, or computers.</span></p><p><span>Countries like Finland may have the right approach with its &#8220;1%&#8221; AI initiative. With the support of government and private companies, the country is trying to teach 1% of the country&#8217;s population (approximately 55,000 people) basic concepts at the root of artificial intelligence technology. Although seemingly small-scale, the thrust of what the country is trying to accomplish is incredibly important.</span></p><p><span>As tasks increasingly get digitized, it&#8217;ll be ever more critical for the humans coordinating with the computers or robots to have enough domain knowledge to assess and check the work of the machines. We must be able to question the AI that undergirds all of our technologies, rather than let these technologies outstrip our ability to control them. Otherwise, our filter bubbles will become even more insular, and our ability to connect with one another will weaken without practice.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan:</span></strong><span> The effect of more hours focused on screens means that people are investing less time practicing person-to-person skills with others. What&#8217;s the impact of that on an individual&#8217;s preparation for the workplace of the future?</span></p><p><strong><span>Weise: </span></strong><span>Without deliberate practice of our human skills, we may inadvertently be impairing our competitive advantage for the future of work. Emotional intelligence, or our emotional quotient (EQ), as an example, is connected to larger issues of self-awareness and self-control, as well as optimism and flexibility. It helps us persist, face hardship, and deal with delayed gratification. In our work lives, it means we can take feedback well and demonstrate grit in the face of real challenges. Our bosses view us as more accountable and coachable with stronger EQ. These leadership skills are a powerful differentiator for employees; higher EQ translates into earnings on average of </span><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Ego-vs-EQ-Emotional-Intelligence/dp/1937134768/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&amp;keywords=jen+shirkani&amp;qid=1602698949&amp;sr=8-2"><span>$29,000 more</span></a><span> per year. 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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 85: Sebastian Wernicke — Building a Culture Where Data Inspires Better Questions]]></title><description><![CDATA[Data scientist and three-time TED speaker Sebastian Wernicke tells Rodger Dean Duncan that most organizations use data to confirm what they already believe &#8212; and why being data-inspired beats being data-driven.]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-85-sebastian-wernicke-data-inspired-culture</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-85-sebastian-wernicke-data-inspired-culture</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LeaderSHOP]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2026 09:30:49 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/209037562/85c62f6c475e9431d609c96272d64c04.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Organizations have invested billions of dollars in data platforms, analytics, dashboards, and artificial intelligence, yet many still struggle to make better decisions. Dr. Sebastian Wernicke argues that the problem is rarely the technology itself. Instead, organizations often use data to reinforce existing assumptions rather than challenge them. While becoming data-driven improves efficiency and helps optimize current operations, becoming data-inspired transforms how people think. It encourages leaders to ask better questions, embrace uncertainty, and use evidence to discover opportunities that would otherwise remain hidden.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lFX8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cdc005-eedd-480f-b49e-63cd20bd218a_450x203.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lFX8!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cdc005-eedd-480f-b49e-63cd20bd218a_450x203.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lFX8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cdc005-eedd-480f-b49e-63cd20bd218a_450x203.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lFX8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cdc005-eedd-480f-b49e-63cd20bd218a_450x203.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lFX8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cdc005-eedd-480f-b49e-63cd20bd218a_450x203.png" width="450" height="203" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/55cdc005-eedd-480f-b49e-63cd20bd218a_450x203.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:203,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:99413,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/209037562?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cdc005-eedd-480f-b49e-63cd20bd218a_450x203.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lFX8!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cdc005-eedd-480f-b49e-63cd20bd218a_450x203.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lFX8!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cdc005-eedd-480f-b49e-63cd20bd218a_450x203.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lFX8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cdc005-eedd-480f-b49e-63cd20bd218a_450x203.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lFX8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cdc005-eedd-480f-b49e-63cd20bd218a_450x203.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><p>Throughout the conversation, Wernicke explains that lasting transformation begins with culture rather than software. Leaders who foster curiosity, intellectual honesty, and thoughtful inquiry create organizations where data becomes a catalyst for learning instead of merely a tool for reporting. In a world shaped by accelerating change and increasingly capable artificial intelligence, competitive advantage will belong not to organizations with the most data, but to those that develop the discipline to question assumptions, validate conclusions, and continually explore what might be possible next.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Zeh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd11c2a3-f3cf-4e7a-9aaf-26719e4630f3_450x225.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Zeh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd11c2a3-f3cf-4e7a-9aaf-26719e4630f3_450x225.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Zeh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd11c2a3-f3cf-4e7a-9aaf-26719e4630f3_450x225.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Zeh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd11c2a3-f3cf-4e7a-9aaf-26719e4630f3_450x225.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Zeh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd11c2a3-f3cf-4e7a-9aaf-26719e4630f3_450x225.png" width="450" height="225" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/dd11c2a3-f3cf-4e7a-9aaf-26719e4630f3_450x225.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:225,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:63065,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/209037562?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd11c2a3-f3cf-4e7a-9aaf-26719e4630f3_450x225.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Zeh!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd11c2a3-f3cf-4e7a-9aaf-26719e4630f3_450x225.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Zeh!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd11c2a3-f3cf-4e7a-9aaf-26719e4630f3_450x225.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Zeh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd11c2a3-f3cf-4e7a-9aaf-26719e4630f3_450x225.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Zeh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd11c2a3-f3cf-4e7a-9aaf-26719e4630f3_450x225.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ul><li><p>Curiosity is the engine of better decision making. Leaders who consistently ask &#8220;Why?&#8221; and &#8220;What if?&#8221; uncover opportunities that certainty and routine often overlook.</p></li><li><p>Effective leaders distinguish between success metrics that evaluate yesterday&#8217;s results and steering metrics that guide today&#8217;s actions.</p></li><li><p>Artificial intelligence amplifies human capability, but it cannot replace critical thinking. Leaders must continue to question, validate, and interpret information rather than accepting confident answers at face value.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qxxj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b2af2ac-08f9-44a2-999d-1c7b666b2a09_450x171.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qxxj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b2af2ac-08f9-44a2-999d-1c7b666b2a09_450x171.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qxxj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b2af2ac-08f9-44a2-999d-1c7b666b2a09_450x171.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qxxj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b2af2ac-08f9-44a2-999d-1c7b666b2a09_450x171.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qxxj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b2af2ac-08f9-44a2-999d-1c7b666b2a09_450x171.png" width="450" height="171" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2b2af2ac-08f9-44a2-999d-1c7b666b2a09_450x171.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:171,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:38501,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/209037562?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b2af2ac-08f9-44a2-999d-1c7b666b2a09_450x171.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qxxj!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b2af2ac-08f9-44a2-999d-1c7b666b2a09_450x171.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qxxj!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b2af2ac-08f9-44a2-999d-1c7b666b2a09_450x171.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qxxj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b2af2ac-08f9-44a2-999d-1c7b666b2a09_450x171.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qxxj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b2af2ac-08f9-44a2-999d-1c7b666b2a09_450x171.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ol><li><p>Encourage your team to ask &#8220;Why?&#8221; and &#8220;What if?&#8221; before searching for solutions. Better questions often produce better decisions.</p></li><li><p>Separate the metrics you use to steer today&#8217;s work from the metrics you use to evaluate long-term success so each serves its intended purpose.</p></li><li><p>When using AI, treat every response as a starting point for inquiry rather than a final answer. Verify important conclusions before acting on them.</p></li></ol>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Is Yours a ‘Safe’ Workplace? There’s More To It Than You Might Imagine]]></title><description><![CDATA['Psychological safety' is much more than an HR slogan. It's a critical ingredient in any high-performance culture.]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/is-yours-a-safe-workplace-theres</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/is-yours-a-safe-workplace-theres</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rodger Dean Duncan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2026 06:01:03 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!25O4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc34b3de5-c7c1-4305-b8e9-36739148b756_6000x3731.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!25O4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc34b3de5-c7c1-4305-b8e9-36739148b756_6000x3731.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><strong>By Rodger Dean Duncan</strong></p><p>In this age of &#8220;cancel culture,&#8221; many people are reluctant to speak their minds for fear of being ridiculed, shamed, or even banished. A superior, holier-than-thou mindset seems to be the new favorite tool of bullies.</p><p>But more subtle versions have been seen in the workplace for as long as any of us can remember.</p><p>Here&#8217;s an example. A nuclear power plant was in the middle of a planned outage. That&#8217;s when the plant is temporarily shut down for routine maintenance. During an outage, a nuclear plant is of course not generating electricity and is therefore not making money. It&#8217;s <em>spending</em> money, lots of it. So it&#8217;s important to complete the outage safely and as quickly as possible. In my role as a leadership consultant I was observing the beehive of activity in the outage control center, a large room with dozens of computers and closed-circuit TV screens for monitoring the work being done in the plant. The plant vice president walked into the room with a concerned expression on his face.</p><p>&#8220;What&#8217;s going on? &#8221; I asked.</p><p>&#8220;We&#8217;ve got a problem.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Is it a safety issue? &#8221; I inquired.</p><p>&#8220;No, it&#8217;s not a safety issue.&#8221;</p><p>At this point I realized he was probably using the word &#8220;safety&#8221; in reference to physical safety concerns like a radiation leak or an industrial accident. I, on the other hand, was talking about psychological safety.</p><p>But I just let the conversation unfold. The vice president explained that a crew had entered a room in the plant, set up scaffolding, and started dismantling equipment for inspection and, if needed, replacement. The first crew finished its shift, and the second crew entered the room to continue the work. At the end of the second shift a third crew came in and one of its workers immediately said, &#8220;Hey, this is the wrong room. We&#8217;re not scheduled to work on this equipment until the next outage twelve months from now.&#8221;</p><p>Oops.</p><p>I asked the vice president how this mistake would affect the schedule for this outage. He said it would delay the outage by at least 18 to 24 hours. In addition, there would be a ripple effect on the hundreds of supplemental workers who had been hired to help with the outage.</p><p>&#8220;What&#8217;s your company&#8217;s selling price for electricity these days? &#8221; I asked.</p><p>&#8220;About $50 per megawatt.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Okay,&#8221; I said. &#8220;This nuclear plant features a 1,000-megawatt reactor. A thousand megawatts multiplied by $50 is $50,000 per hour. Multiply that by 24 hours and you get $1.2 million of lost income. Add to that the expense of keeping several hundred supplemental workers on site for an extra day and the cost jumps to well beyond $2 million.&#8221;</p><p>My friend didn&#8217;t like the explicit math, but he knew it was accurate.</p><p>&#8220;But you say it wasn&#8217;t a safety issue? &#8221; I asked again.</p><p>&#8220;No, it had nothing to do with safety. It &#8230;&#8221; He paused, and then he got it. &#8220;Oh, yeah, it <em>was</em> a safety issue.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Tell me about it,&#8221; I invited.</p><p>The vice president explained that the first work team was led by a take-no-prisoners crew chief whose command-and-control style was feared by all. He made it clear that people should simply do what he told them and not ask any questions. A couple of guys on his team knew this was the wrong room and the wrong equipment, but they didn&#8217;t dare speak up. A similar situation existed with the second team&#8212;some people knew it was the wrong room and equipment, but their boss had long ago intimidated them into silence. The third crew was different. The crew chief could read the organization chart. He knew he was the boss, but he didn&#8217;t feel the need to remind people. His orientation toward his work mates went something like this: &#8220;Our job on this team is to help each other work smarter. The only way to do that is to challenge each other&#8217;s thinking. I&#8217;ll challenge your thinking and I expect you to challenge mine.&#8221; So in that kind of environment it was easy for a member of this crew to say &#8220;Hey, this is the wrong room!&#8221;</p><p>Not every instance of conversational silence has a $2 million price tag. But the cumulative effect of such silence&#8212;reluctance or outright refusal to speak freely&#8212;adds up quickly. Let&#8217;s say you have ten smart people at a table and three of them don&#8217;t feel &#8220;safe&#8221; in speaking up. Not only do you not benefit from the &#8220;smarts&#8221; of the silent three, I suggest that you don&#8217;t have the full benefit of the other seven.</p><p>As you can see, psychological safety has important workplace benefits. And the lack of it can have serious consequences.</p><p>Nobody understands that better than Dr. Timothy R. Clark, founder and CEO of LeaderFactor, a leadership consulting and training organization.</p><p>Ranked as a global authority in senior executive development, strategic acceleration, and organizational change, Tim is the author of five books, including <em>The 4 Stages of Psychological Safety: Defining the Path to Inclusion and Innovation.</em></p><p><strong>Rodger Dean Duncan: </strong><span>Employee &#8220;engagement&#8221;&#8212;which involves things like discretionary effort&#8212;is clearly an important factor in an organization&#8217;s success. You say an organization that expects employees to bring their whole selves to the workplace should engage the whole employee. What roles do &#8220;respect&#8221; and &#8220;permission&#8221; play in creating (and maintaining) high levels of engagement? (Please briefly explain the 4 stages in your model.)</span></p><p><strong><span>Timothy R. Clark: </span></strong><span>It Psychological safety is based on the intersection or fusion of two things: respect and permission. Without increasing levels of respect and permission, employees will not release their discretionary efforts. Why? Because they don&#8217;t feel safe.</span></p><p><span>Watch your own behavior. When you enter a new social setting, what&#8217;s the first thing you do? You do threat detection. All human beings engage in this subconscious process. We are scanning and monitoring the social dynamics to assess the level of personal risk. If it&#8217;s not safe, we withdraw into a defensive mode of performance. If it is safe, we move through four stages of psychological safety that each engage us at progressively higher levels.</span></p><p><span>Stage 1 is inclusion safety. It means we feel a sense of belonging, that we fit in.</span></p><p><span>Stage 2 is learner safety. This means we feel safe to engage in the learning process&#8212;asking questions, giving and receiving feedback, even making mistakes.</span></p><p><span>Stage 3 is contributor safety which allows us to contribute as a full member of the team to use what we have learned and make a difference.</span></p><p><span>Finally, stage 4 is challenger safety which means we feel safe to challenge the status quo. And you can do all of this without fear of being embarrassed, marginalized, or punished in some way.</span></p><p><span>The bottom line is that if you want people to bring their whole selves to work, you better be ready to engage them through all four stages of psychological safety. Otherwise, you&#8217;re being disingenuous.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan:</span></strong><span> </span>You say there&#8217;s opportunity in calamity, and that a crisis like the Covid pandemic or social unrest liquefies the status quo. Please elaborate.</p><p><strong><span>Clark: </span></strong><span>A crisis has a unique ability to knock the current state out of its orbit, to disrupt our equilibrium, or as I say liquefy the status quo. Because things have become fluid, we have an incredible opportunity to transform organizations. I studied organizational culture at Oxford and one hard fact that we learned is that organizations fossilize the status quo and it usually takes several years to recast an entire culture. The Covid pandemic gave us a rare chance to accelerate that process because the status quo is already gone. We are in transition. The question is where we go from here. We either drift a long and let things happen or we get deliberate about it and design our future state.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan:</span></strong><span> The prevalence of fear, you say, is the first sign of weak leadership. What are the most common telltale signs of fear in the workplace, and what steps can a leader take to replace fear with safety?</span></p><p><strong><span>Clark: </span></strong><span>The telltale signs are the interpersonal indicators of engagement. Just walk into any meeting and you will see the habits, norms, instincts, and assumptions of the organization on display. Organizations always reveal the quality of the leaders in the expression of their norms. It&#8217;s impossible to hide it. If the patterns of interaction are formal, contrived, tense, forced, and reluctant, rest assured that you are swimming in fear. If they are fun, energetic, and risk-taking, you know that leaders set that tone.</span></p><p><span>Leaders can do a lot of things to drain fear out of the workplace. I&#8217;ll just mention two: First, invite your employees to challenge you. Insist on it. Second, prove that it&#8217;s safe to do that by acknowledging, welcoming, and valuing that dissent. Remember, the homogenization of thought is the enemy. The last thing you want is for people to agree with you and defer to your positional power. If they are doing that, you are not leading at all. You&#8217;re hiding behind title, position, and authority. That&#8217;s a cop out.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan:</span></strong><span> &#8220;Behave until you believe&#8221; is a practice you advocate for overcoming bias and granting inclusion to someone. Give us an example of how the works.</span></p><p><strong><span>Clark: </span></strong><span>Here&#8217;s a simple example: When you&#8217;re talking to someone, face them with your whole body. It communicates more respect and allows you to listen better for comprehension. Now that&#8217;s the theory based on sociometric research. But don&#8217;t take my word for it. Go do it and see if it works. That&#8217;s the principle. Apply principles to verify and validate them.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PPW2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd09a7d5a-d15e-42cc-b992-7fddb817aa83_1014x517.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PPW2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd09a7d5a-d15e-42cc-b992-7fddb817aa83_1014x517.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PPW2!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd09a7d5a-d15e-42cc-b992-7fddb817aa83_1014x517.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PPW2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd09a7d5a-d15e-42cc-b992-7fddb817aa83_1014x517.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PPW2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd09a7d5a-d15e-42cc-b992-7fddb817aa83_1014x517.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PPW2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd09a7d5a-d15e-42cc-b992-7fddb817aa83_1014x517.jpeg" width="564" height="287.5621301775148" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d09a7d5a-d15e-42cc-b992-7fddb817aa83_1014x517.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:517,&quot;width&quot;:1014,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:564,&quot;bytes&quot;:133831,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/208742853?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd09a7d5a-d15e-42cc-b992-7fddb817aa83_1014x517.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PPW2!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd09a7d5a-d15e-42cc-b992-7fddb817aa83_1014x517.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PPW2!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd09a7d5a-d15e-42cc-b992-7fddb817aa83_1014x517.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PPW2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd09a7d5a-d15e-42cc-b992-7fddb817aa83_1014x517.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PPW2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd09a7d5a-d15e-42cc-b992-7fddb817aa83_1014x517.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><strong><span>Duncan</span></strong><span>: The &#8220;leader as oracle&#8221; model doesn&#8217;t work well in today&#8217;s world. How can leaders help create a learning environment that nurtures people&#8217;s curiosity and motivation?</span></p><p><strong><span>Clark: </span></strong><span>The leader as oracle mindset is based on an industrial age notion that the leader has the answers. The leader is an oracle. Now you may have some answers, but in a highly dynamic environment, your answers become obsolete, so you lead by leading your team in the learning and adaptation process, not in being the repository of answers. How do you do this? Through inquiry. Lead through questions more than answers. Shut up and listen. It actually works.</span></p><p><strong><span>Duncan:</span></strong><span> How does the &#8220;tell-to-ask&#8221; ratio affect a leader&#8217;s ability to create what you call contributor safety?</span></p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 84: Justin Hale — Why Accountability Is an Act of Leadership, Not Confrontation]]></title><description><![CDATA[Crucial Learning's Justin Hale joins Rodger Dean Duncan to argue that silence is never neutral: when leaders avoid the hard conversation, trust erodes and the culture quietly agrees to lower standards.]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-84-justin-hale-accountability-as-leadership</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/ep-84-justin-hale-accountability-as-leadership</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LeaderSHOP]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2026 09:31:38 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/209035675/4dae639e16345492c77033b981a5fa6c.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Accountability is one of leadership&#8217;s most misunderstood responsibilities. Many leaders avoid difficult conversations because they fear conflict, damaging relationships, or provoking defensiveness. Justin Hale argues that silence carries a far greater cost. When expectations go unspoken and broken commitments go unaddressed, trust erodes, performance declines, and organizational culture slowly accepts lower standards. Drawing on decades of research from Crucial Learning, Hale explains that accountability is not about confrontation&#8212;it&#8217;s about helping people succeed by addressing performance gaps with clarity, curiosity, and respect.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_IsN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6a24bc-e8bf-4df7-b1e5-bdac091dddc0_450x196.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_IsN!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6a24bc-e8bf-4df7-b1e5-bdac091dddc0_450x196.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_IsN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6a24bc-e8bf-4df7-b1e5-bdac091dddc0_450x196.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_IsN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6a24bc-e8bf-4df7-b1e5-bdac091dddc0_450x196.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_IsN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6a24bc-e8bf-4df7-b1e5-bdac091dddc0_450x196.png" width="450" height="196" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ea6a24bc-e8bf-4df7-b1e5-bdac091dddc0_450x196.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:196,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:69454,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/209035675?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6a24bc-e8bf-4df7-b1e5-bdac091dddc0_450x196.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_IsN!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6a24bc-e8bf-4df7-b1e5-bdac091dddc0_450x196.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_IsN!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6a24bc-e8bf-4df7-b1e5-bdac091dddc0_450x196.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_IsN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6a24bc-e8bf-4df7-b1e5-bdac091dddc0_450x196.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_IsN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6a24bc-e8bf-4df7-b1e5-bdac091dddc0_450x196.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><p>Throughout the conversation, Hale reframes accountability as an ongoing process of building trust rather than winning arguments. Effective leaders replace assumptions with questions, judgment with curiosity, and blame with genuine dialogue. Instead of entering difficult conversations determined to prove someone wrong, they seek to understand what caused the gap between expectations and results. When accountability is approached with psychological safety, mutual purpose, and respect, even challenging conversations become opportunities to strengthen relationships while improving performance.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M28M!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F767284d5-eae2-44e6-b443-4c7e9ac5d9c1_450x225.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M28M!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F767284d5-eae2-44e6-b443-4c7e9ac5d9c1_450x225.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M28M!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F767284d5-eae2-44e6-b443-4c7e9ac5d9c1_450x225.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M28M!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F767284d5-eae2-44e6-b443-4c7e9ac5d9c1_450x225.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M28M!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F767284d5-eae2-44e6-b443-4c7e9ac5d9c1_450x225.png" width="450" height="225" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/767284d5-eae2-44e6-b443-4c7e9ac5d9c1_450x225.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:225,&quot;width&quot;:450,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:63065,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://podcast.leadershop.net/i/209035675?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F767284d5-eae2-44e6-b443-4c7e9ac5d9c1_450x225.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M28M!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F767284d5-eae2-44e6-b443-4c7e9ac5d9c1_450x225.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M28M!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F767284d5-eae2-44e6-b443-4c7e9ac5d9c1_450x225.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M28M!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F767284d5-eae2-44e6-b443-4c7e9ac5d9c1_450x225.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M28M!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F767284d5-eae2-44e6-b443-4c7e9ac5d9c1_450x225.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ul><li><p>Silence is never neutral. When leaders ignore broken commitments or poor performance, they unintentionally communicate that lower standards are acceptable.</p></li><li><p>Accountability begins with clarity. Many performance problems originate because expectations were never defined with enough specificity for success to be measured.</p></li><li><p>Curiosity is more productive than certainty. Leaders who replace assumptions with thoughtful questions create conversations that build trust instead of defensiveness.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!W6La!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc2299d7c-abe9-4698-9010-067a8324c263_450x171.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!W6La!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc2299d7c-abe9-4698-9010-067a8324c263_450x171.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!W6La!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc2299d7c-abe9-4698-9010-067a8324c263_450x171.png 1272w, 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!W6La!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc2299d7c-abe9-4698-9010-067a8324c263_450x171.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!W6La!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc2299d7c-abe9-4698-9010-067a8324c263_450x171.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!W6La!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc2299d7c-abe9-4698-9010-067a8324c263_450x171.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!W6La!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc2299d7c-abe9-4698-9010-067a8324c263_450x171.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><ol><li><p>The next time you feel frustrated with someone&#8217;s performance, pause before reacting and ask yourself whether your expectations were communicated clearly and specifically.</p></li><li><p>Replace assumptions with curiosity by asking questions that help you understand why a reasonable person may have struggled before deciding what conclusions to draw.</p></li><li><p>Address performance concerns promptly instead of allowing them to grow into larger relationship problems that become more difficult to resolve.</p></li></ol>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Get What You Want By Boosting Your AWE Factor]]></title><description><![CDATA[This talent agent has some interesting ideas on how to increase your "connectability" while staying true to your real self]]></description><link>https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/get-what-you-want-by-boosting-your</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://podcast.leadershop.net/p/get-what-you-want-by-boosting-your</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Rodger Dean Duncan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:11:31 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TrCd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1bcdcd96-907a-43c4-a63c-f4db6554cab9_5624x3822.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TrCd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1bcdcd96-907a-43c4-a63c-f4db6554cab9_5624x3822.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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Our commerce and civic life&#8212;and especially our politics&#8212;seem to be dominated by in-your-face noise.</p><p>Steve Herz recommends a different approach. Steve is a talent agent who represents more than 250 of today&#8217;s top journalists, broadcast executives, and media personalities at CBS, CNN, MSNBC, FOX News, ESPN and elsewhere. He also provides guidance and coaching to athletes, CEOs, and entrepreneurs. If you assume his clients are not exactly the shy and retiring types, you&#8217;d be right.</p><p>So what is Steve&#8217;s approach? It&#8217;s summarized in the title of his book&#8212;<em>Don&#8217;t Take Yes for an Answer: Using Authority, Warmth, and Energy to Get Exceptional Results.</em></p><p>Steve says knowledge, skills, and experience are not the biggest factors in one&#8217;s career and leadership success. So what is? The ability to make deep human connections. And the three things that determine your &#8220;connectability&#8221; are the authority you exhibit, the warmth you convey, and the energy you exude and bring out in others.</p><p>In other words, your AWE.</p><p><strong>Rodger Dean Duncan:</strong><span> </span>You use the acronym AWE (Authority, Warmth, Energy) as the prism through which you observe, assess, coach, and develop your clients. Why that particular approach?</p><p><strong>Steve Herz: </strong>I developed this approach over time, based on something I first learned from an old mentor, Alfred Geller. He was a successful television news agent whose core mission was to do whatever it took to make his client better. He believed that if you could build yourself up into something outstanding, irresistible, or indispensable, the world and the marketplace would be yours. So he obsessed over the details of his clients&#8217; on-air performance, reviewing tapes, analyzing and critiquing every nuance of their delivery.</p><p>Over time, I concluded that this exclusive focus on on-air performance didn&#8217;t go far enough. Our career success doesn&#8217;t only stem from how we behave, speak, and present ourselves when we&#8217;re &#8220;on,&#8221; but also from how we behave, speak, and present ourselves in the hallways, at the conference table, at lunch, networking events, and our interpersonal relationships.</p><p>So I took what I learned from Geller about extracting an excellent performance and started to focus on all-around excellence. And I determined, based on 20 years of working with clients, that authority, warmth, and energy make all the difference in a career that sputters and one that soars.</p><p><strong>Duncan:</strong> Multiple studies show that so-called &#8220;soft&#8221; skills like interpersonal communication are equally important&#8212;or even more important&#8212;to a person&#8217;s career success as technical skills. If that&#8217;s true, why do schools&#8212;and companies&#8212;invest so little in soft skills training?</p><p><strong>Herz:</strong> It&#8217;s just the way in which things have evolved. We put metrics around hard skills. We get grades in school on math, science, English, etc. Putting metrics around soft skills is a harder task because some of it is subjective and we tend to grade only what we believe is objective. Personally, I think this is false because much of the hard skill grading is subjective and much of the soft skills are actually objective. But until we can find common ground on how we even define the soft skills, and we get comfortable talking about it, I don&#8217;t see widespread change. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s incumbent on individuals to be proactive about seeking it out for themselves.</p><p><strong>Duncan:</strong> Studies also show that more than six in ten recent college graduates believe they possess strong soft skills, while only about 15% of their employers agree. To what do you attribute such a wide gap?</p><p><strong>Herz:</strong> Two factors. First, many college graduates (and others) have an inflated sense of their overall skill set because of the massive grade inflation we&#8217;ve seen in the country over the past four decades. And second, the proliferation of the participation trophy, which has morphed into an MVP (for all) trophy. Employers have largely gotten out of the business of feedback and/or actually firing people (instead using euphemisms like &#8220;downsizing&#8221;), so these recent college grads are living in an echo chamber of Yes.</p><p><strong>Duncan:</strong> In your coaching work, what seems to be the most common deficit in professional people&#8217;s ability to &#8220;project&#8221; in ways that lead to success?</p><p><strong>Herz:</strong> It depends, but often it&#8217;s a blind spot that is relatively easy to fix. Such as using filler words (like, so, you know) or having a weak voice/delivery (often from bad habits, not a structural issue) or poor eye contact (while speaking and/or listening) that tends to self-sabotage their ability to gain trust or influence in the room.</p><p><strong>Duncan:</strong> Your book title is derived form your observation that truly honest (and helpful) feedback is rare in the workplace. To what do you attribute people&#8217;s reluctance to be more helpful in assessing each other&#8217;s performance?</p><p><strong>Herz:</strong> It&#8217;s become the cultural norm not to judge other people. We see &#8220;no judgments&#8221; on bumper stickers and once that norm takes place, well-meaning people don&#8217;t feel safe risking it to offer feedback that might be perceived as inappropriate. Then there is a layer of litigation defense that HR departments are using as a shield, and it&#8217;s again not worth the risk for many companies.<span> </span>Better to say nothing and let someone fail (and protect your own hide) than offer guidance and find yourself on the wrong end of a complaint.</p><p><strong>Duncan:</strong> So what&#8217;s the solution to the problem?</p><p><strong>Herz:</strong> The solution has to start with the individual. Rather than seeing constructive criticism through a negative prism we should start to see the <em>lack</em> of feedback as the most dangerous thing to our future.</p><p>Old paradigms like &#8220;no news is good news&#8221; and &#8220;if it ain&#8217;t broke, don&#8217;t fix it&#8221; don&#8217;t apply to the workplace anymore. There are unfortunately plenty of people out there who are blissfully unaware that they are on the chopping block for the next round of &#8220;downsizing&#8221; or the next &#8220;re-org.&#8221;<span> </span>The other solution is for managers and leaders to welcome and encourage feedback of their work on a regular basis and truly be open to learning what their direct reports have to offer. Learning is not a one-way street and only confined to an org chart. 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First, just having the awareness doesn&#8217;t help us improve in real time. And second, we often forget about our weaknesses and fall back on the safety of our comfortable bad habits. By observing these same bad habits in others, it shines a light back on yourself. For example, if you have a bad habit of saying &#8220;like&#8221; every other sentence, once you become hyperaware of others doing it, it&#8217;s likely to start driving you crazy&#8212;and you&#8217;ll stop doing it.</p><p><strong>Duncan:</strong> What are the steps to translating self-awareness into improved personal performance?</p>
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