What if leadership was never meant to be about managing people—but about stewarding lives? In this powerful episode of the LeaderSHOP Podcast we visit with Bob Chapman, CEO of Barry-Wehmiller and co-author of Everybody Matters, to explore a radically human-centered approach to leadership. Bob shares the personal revelation that transformed how he viewed his role as a CEO—from overseeing functions and numbers to caring for thousands of human beings entrusted to his leadership.
Under Bob’s guidance, Barry-Wehmiller grew from a $20 million manufacturing firm into a global $3.6 billion enterprise spanning more than 30 countries—without routine layoffs and with an unwavering commitment to dignity, trust, and listening. This conversation goes far beyond theory, revealing how truly human leadership not only fuels extraordinary business results, but also profoundly shapes employees’ marriages, families, health, and communities.
Leadership Is Stewardship, Not Management
Chapman draws a sharp contrast between management—manipulating people for results—and leadership, which he defines as the stewardship of the lives you have the privilege of leading.
People Are Not Functions—They Are Someone’s Precious Child
A single moment at a wedding led Chapman to realize that every employee represents a life profoundly shaped by how they are treated at work.
Caring Is Contagious
When people feel valued and safe, they naturally care for others—creating accountability rooted in mutual responsibility rather than fear.
Practice Judgment-Free Listening
Have one conversation where your sole goal is to listen—no interrupting, correcting, or advising. Simply validate the person’s experience.
Celebrate What’s Right, Not Just What’s Broken
Identify and recognize specific behaviors that demonstrate care, service, or teamwork. Make recognition personal and meaningful.
Build a TGIM Mindset
Ask: What would need to change for people on my team to say, “Thank goodness it’s Monday”?
