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Ep 63: Ashley Herd – how to lead people without burning them (or yourself) out
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Ep 63: Ashley Herd – how to lead people without burning them (or yourself) out

In today’s organizations, managers are expected to deliver results in an environment filled with ambiguity, pressure, and constant change. Yet most managers are promoted without practical training on how to lead people effectively. Instead, they’re handed lofty leadership concepts and expected to figure out the real work of management—difficult conversations, accountability, delegation, and team dynamics—on their own.

Ashley Herd—author of The Manager Method: A Practical Framework to Lead, Support, and Get Results—draws on her experience as an employment attorney, HR leader, and leadership trainer. She provides a practical approach to modern management—one built around clarity, empathy, and action. From handling feedback and burnout to running effective meetings and using AI responsibly, this conversation offers leaders tools they can apply immediately.

  • Most Managers Are Never Truly Trained

    Many organizations promote strong individual contributors into leadership roles but fail to provide practical management training. Managers often receive theoretical advice—“be strategic” or “drive results”—without clear guidance on what to say or do in real situations.

  • The “Pause, Consider, Act” Framework
    Herd’s core leadership tool is simple but powerful: Pause before reacting, Consider the other person’s perspective, Act with clarity and intention.

    This framework helps leaders handle mistakes, tough conversations, and decisions more thoughtfully.

  • Silence Is the Biggest Feedback Mistake

    Many managers avoid difficult conversations because they don’t want to upset employees or risk losing them. But withholding feedback hurts both the individual and the organization. Honest, timely conversations create clarity and growth.

  1. Practice the Pause
    The next time you feel the urge to respond immediately—especially in a stressful moment—pause for a few seconds. Ask yourself: “What perspective might I be missing?”

  2. Ask your team for input
    In your next meeting, ask: “What am I missing?” or “What could we be doing better?” Create space for candid feedback.

  3. Use AI to Improve Your Leadership
    Ask an AI tool: “I’m a manager in [your role]. How could I use AI to become better at managing people?” Experiment with one idea you receive.

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